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Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Jan 2013 14:23

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1317685?jump=1317685

Beryl

Beryl Report 4 Jan 2013 12:26

thank you

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jan 2013 11:31

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1316894

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Dec 2012 11:40

Thank you Ann, and I wish you all the best for the festive season

Beryl

Beryl Report 24 Dec 2012 11:00

Hi reggie,

yes I will be doing that, but will be away for a few days over Christmas, so will start again on my return.Thank you for your kind assistance, and I would like to take this opportunity of wishing you a very merry Christmas, and a happy peaceful New Year

Regards Ann

Reggie

Reggie Report 23 Dec 2012 12:05

Are you planning to purchase the 1864 marriage cert?

For the sake of £9.25, you can find out if Thomas knew his father

Beryl

Beryl Report 22 Dec 2012 13:43

yes, I do realise that the spelling is a problem, it has been from day 1. I have contacted several other members to see what their trees hold, one has replied, and it has given me a lot of information about my great Uncle who went to Bury. I now have all his family up to the present day. I have yet to hear from the others. Unfortunately, although I now have a lot more info, none of it is relative to the GG Grandparents , so again, I carry on!

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 16:51

Have you done anything yet about making contact with other members?

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 16:50

If you really want to find out.......buy the 1864 marriage cert

Fanny was undoubtedly born before Civil Registration came into force, and Thomas's birth probably wasn't registered

The record of the name as Henngham is simply a mistranscription by Ancestry.............you must always allow for that. Ancestry mainly used transcribers whose first language isn't English............and whose knowledge of British surnames is limited, to say the least.

So, be flexible...........

Beryl

Beryl Report 21 Dec 2012 13:55

thank you, seems very strange I can't find anything either - but its the first I have heard of anyone called Joseph Barnett - strange though Mr Picken was also a locksmith - could be their births were never registered

patchem

patchem Report 21 Dec 2012 13:49

Just putting the 1841 census, Thomas is in the same household, age 1 1/2, living with Joseph Barnett, locksmith, age 20 (?)
1841 England Census
Fanny Henningham Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Tettenhall Regis With Tettenhall Clericorum Hundred: North Seisdon County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton and Seisdon
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
Piece: 998 Book: 16 Folio: 30 Page Number: 8
Fanny Henningham 3
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 998; Book: 16; Civil Parish: Tettenhall Regis With Tettenhall Clericorum; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 30; Page: 8; Line: 9; GSU roll: 474626.

No obvious birth for Fanny or Thomas from bmd or IGI.

Beryl

Beryl Report 21 Dec 2012 13:41

my mistake - thank you for pointing that out, but it still does not help me to find their bitrth details, or anything relating to their parents - I have scoured the birth records for all of them, but as yet have found nothing! Another thing I would mention is that the spelling is, as our name, and spelled Hevingham on the census record I have, and yet on the info you have it is mis-spelled - as Henngham, this is one of the problems I keep encountering, there appears to be a multitude of spellings, and this is another thing that is causing some of the problems - I am sorry if you find me a nuisance, but as I said at the start, I am no expert, and am learning as I go, I would never have thought that an unusual name like mine would be so hard to research.

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 13:18

OK......your info was from 1851..............not 1841

1851 England Census about Fanny Henngham
Name: Fanny Henngham
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Nurse Child (Nurse)
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Tettenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 2017
Folio: 107
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Picken 46
Hannah Picken 42
Ann Picken 9
Arthur Picken 4
Sarah Hannah Picken 2
Fanny Henngham 13
Thomas Henngham 11

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 13:16

The way to find parental info for Thomas is to purchase his marriage cert

If he knew his father..the details will be recorded

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 13:05

You really should look in 'search all trees', and try to make contact with other GR members who are researching the same family

I wish you'd said you had all the census info...........

Not sure where you get the info about 'nurse child' in 1841

1841 does not record relationships

Beryl

Beryl Report 21 Dec 2012 13:02

wow you have been busy
My g g grand father was Thomas Hevingham (b.1839) - spouse Betsy (Elizabeth)Smith (b1841)
My G Grandfather was Thomas Hevingham (b 1868) spouse - Frances Mary Bate (b?)
My Grandfather was William John Hevingham (b Dec 1899 - d l964) spouse Annie Florence Styles (b May 1898 - d May l970)
My Father was George Ronald Hevingham (b1928 - d 2003)

my problem is, I have loads of relatives along these lines, but I can find no trace of my G G Grandfather's parents, in fact, Thomas and his sister Fanny were on the 1841 living as "nurse children" with a family called Picken in Tettenhall Wood Wolverhampton, but I can not seem to find a connection - If only I knew what do do next - thank you for your help so far

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 11:52

You may need to obtain the 1919 marriage cert for confirmation of paternal details for the bride and groom

I can't see a birth or death for William as per the census info..............and following the wrong line could waste a lot of time for you.

EDIT:

On the other hand..............

.........perhaps they all went by their second forenames!

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Hevingham Alfred Thomas Aston 6d 435
Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Hevingham John William Aston 6d 439
Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
HEVINGHAM Albert Edward Aston 6d 449

And there is a death for a John W which ties in with the birth

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 11:46

1891 England Census

Name: Frances M Hevingham
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Hevingham
Gender: Female
Where born: Tettenhall Wood, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2246
Folio: 140A
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hevingham 24
Frances M Hevingham 25
Thomas H Hevingham 4/12
Evelyn M Bate 20 Sister in Law

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 11:41

??????????????

1911 England Census

Name: William Hevingham
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Aston
Civil parish: Aston Manor
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 65 Portland St Aston Manor
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Piece: 18303
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hevingham 43 born Wolverhampton
Mannie May Hevingham 44****Correct first name is Frances
Harry Hevingham 21
Mary Hevingham 19
Alice Hevingham 17
Arthur Hevingham 19
Thomas Hevingham 14
William Hevingham 12
Edward Hevingham 9
Eva Hevingham 5
Eva Hevingham 8/12 Granddaughter

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Dec 2012 11:37

Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
Styles Annie Florence Aston 6d 370

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Annie Florence Hevingham
Birth Date: 11 May 1898
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1970
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 891