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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2012 09:10

Just to clarify/ You arent registered twice as its the same GRO ref. When a couple arent married but the fathers name is on the birth cert then the record would show under both surnames.

If you sent for both certs you would find its the identical one you would get. So no matter which surname you used it would be the one cert.


Flip Report 23 Dec 2012 08:26

You seem to think it unusual for the birth to be registered under both Evans and Howard, but this is normal. Your birth was registered once, and your father would have had to be in attendance for his name to be used as they were not married.

In all births where the mother has a different name to the father the birth is indexed under both names. Your name was not changed later, both are on the typed indexes not added later. The certificate you have dated 1973 is more than likely a copy certificate obtained to complete the formalities when your fathers parents took you in.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Dec 2012 00:48

Paul's father died in 2004 and your mother is showing as living at that address.


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Dec 2012 00:47

Why would your grandparents bring you up if their son wasn't your father?



karen Report 22 Dec 2012 23:30

because she denies all knowledge of anything but thanks for the help


jax Report 22 Dec 2012 23:25

As your mother is still alive why not ask her? rather than posting all there details on an open site


karen Report 22 Dec 2012 23:05

well this is the thing, i was only brought up by them because i was left with them. my parents didnt marry and ilived with my mothers parents till 1973, i have found 2 records one in the name of evans, my mothers name and the other howard, my father. Is it possible he may not be my father and if my name was changed how could that be done??


Reggie Report 22 Dec 2012 22:21

When was the marriage?

And where are you looking for the record of it?

If you were brought up by your father's parents, you obviously know who your father is.

What - exactly - do you want to find out?


karen Report 22 Dec 2012 21:51

yes have been in contact with them and they are related to my mothers g g grandmother.
I have another query, if someone gets married....and i was a witness at my mothers last marriage, how is it i can find absolutely no record of it??? I feel i'm going slightly mad lol

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Dec 2012 21:24

Do you know Mark and Sandie? They have your mother's name in their trees.


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Dec 2012 21:22

What is it you want to find out? You seem to already know a lot of names.



karen Report 22 Dec 2012 20:45

both certificates are mine, but i do not understand how i could be registered twice?? My mothers married name was evans, her maiden name was rawlings. I lived with her and her parents till i was 3, never had much to do with my father to be honest


Flip Report 22 Dec 2012 13:12

Karen, did you take Penny up on her offer to help?

There's not much anyone can find out about half siblings & your parents without knowing more info - the surnames are too common. Difficult to try to help as this is not a secure site.


brummiejan Report 22 Dec 2012 12:39

Both birth registrations are in 1970. I'll PM the details to you - you obviously know your mother's maiden name so should be able to confirm if yours or not.#
These are def. for the same person.


patchem Report 22 Dec 2012 12:36

Do you have a middle name?
And what is the name of your Mother?

Karen Mary?
Your Mother had been married before?


karen Report 22 Dec 2012 12:27

i wasborn and registered in northampton


brummiejan Report 22 Dec 2012 11:58

I assume you do not have a full birth cert for Karen Howard? If you get this, assuming you believe it to be your birth, it will have the father's name, which obviously you will know to be correct. or not!
I can't see a Karen Evans birth which corresponds to this however.


Flip Report 22 Dec 2012 10:56

If your mother is Evans, then unless your father went to register the birth his name could not be used, so you would have been registered Evans. It is possible that your registration was amended later to Howard. Which reg district was the 1970 registration - if it was subsequently changed there should be reference to in on the bmd index?


karen Report 22 Dec 2012 10:30

I am in the process of trying to obtain my social service records as my grandparents were my foster parents. I am hoping this will fill in a few gaps


karen Report 22 Dec 2012 10:28

my mother is still alive, i have sporadic contact with her, and at best she is very evasive and devoid of responsability lol. And my father i avoid as much as possible.....bit of a mess eh lol