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Gillian Report 5 Feb 2013 11:00

Wow, thanks for all that! Taking your posts in order,.....I have done an all trees search and looked on but had missed the ER for 1958, so that's interesting.
Re the marriage of Robert A Barley to Doris Young in 1927, Frdk Barley only married Elsie Young in 1928 and then had their Doris the same year, followed by Jean in 1932 and Ray in 1934.
Yes, I'd also found that Ray seems to marry John! I sent for the marriage certificate using 5d 56 but have had a very unhelpful reply saying that it cannot be provided because "The information stated on the application does not match the entry identified."!
I had found the Doris Barley death in 1984 but the birth in 1905 is wrong. Frdk and Elsie's Doris was born 1928.
The census info on Robert A Barley is interesting and I'm sure he fits in somewhere, but not as a brother to Frederick (born 1901) as his father was Percy, a certainty.
Thank you SO much for your time and trouble. Will keep mulling over all of this!


Reggie Report 5 Feb 2013 10:15

Name: Doris Barley
Birth Date: 2 Nov 1905
Date of Registration: Jun 1984
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Enfield
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 12
Page: 390

Name: Robert Alfred Barley
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1905
Date of Registration: Jan 1984
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Enfield
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 12
Page: 299

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Robert Alfred Barley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Sep 1905
Father's Name: Robert Alfred Barley
Mother's Name: Nellie Barley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

1911 England Census
Name: Robert Alfred Barley
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Islington
Civil parish: Wood Green
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: No 12 Acacia Road, Wood Green
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: Wood Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 193
Piece: 7250
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Alfred Barley 30
Nelly Barley 29
Ellen Emma Barley 8
Robert Alfred Barley 5
Florence Louisa Barley 1


Reggie Report 5 Feb 2013 10:13

Ray and parents still at the Tottenham address on 1960 ER

He appears to have married in that year - but the GRO index records his spouse's first name as JOHN.........!!!!!

No apparent offspring


Reggie Report 5 Feb 2013 10:05

Ancestry records one possible child for Coletta/Barley

And one (possibly two) for Beech/Barley


Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 23:46

Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%)

Barley Robert A Young Edmonton 3a 1337
YOUNG Doris Barley Edmonton 3a 1337

Are you 100% sure of the relationships you have quoted?

Factual evidence suggests that you've attached the children to the wrong which case, they may not be related to you in the way you think


Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 23:36

On 1958 ER.........

Jean K,
Robert A

All residing at 109 Harringay Road, Tottenham


Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 23:28

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Frederick M Barley
Spouse Surname: Young
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Guildford
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 201
Find Spouse: Elsie M Young


Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 23:23

Start with 'search all trees'

Look for them on


Gillian Report 4 Feb 2013 23:20

Searching for descendants of:

RAY BARLEY, b 1934 Edmonton,
DORIS B BARLEY b 1928 m FRDK BEECH in 1950 or

RAY, DORIS and JEAN are children of ELSIE YOUNG and FRDK BARLEY m. 1928
and they are my half cousins.

Thank you.