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AnotherCanuck

AnotherCanuck Report 5 Mar 2013 22:10

Thanks Sappho :-D

Food for thought here re "mapleleaf" & will keep that suggestion in mind :-)

Have yourself a great day eh :-D LOL & hope you enjoy looking through the Canadian Site.

K/Regards from A/Canuck

Sappho

Sappho Report 5 Mar 2013 10:16

Well done AnotherCanuck,

This is the way to go and the site does it in English as well as French. You should call yourself Mapleleaf - I like it - eh!

Going into that information now to have a look.

Sappho

Kay????

Kay???? Report 3 Mar 2013 16:12

ELLIOTT Enid Violet 1903 Wls Corinthian 1911 10 Claimed
ELLIOTT Harry 1896 Eng Laurentic 1913 17 Claimed
ELLIOTT John Thomas 31/10/1896 Wls Corinthian 1911 15 Claimed
In Order-------

Name--- Date of Birth-------Birthplace....Ship name, Year of arrivel----Claimed means the person has been relative claimed,,,,

A C&P from Rootsweb------ British Home Children. a free searchable register of name,,

some 52 thousands names still remain uclaimed by a decendant relative the site states,,,

vey interesting,,,,,





Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 11:55

Katheleen Francis Ireson
Birth Place: London, England
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Father Name: George Issac Ireson
Mother Name: Mary Blumfield Ireson
Spouse Name: John Thomas Elliott
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1898
Spouse Birth Place: Baggiltin Flint
Spouse Father Name: Was Barnards's Home Boy, Does Not Know Or Cannot Get Father Or Mother's Name Elliott
Spouse Mother Name: Elliott
Marriage Date: 1 Oct 1919
Marriage County or District: Peterborough

Added: If this is the right marriage I would be very tempted to order that 1902 birth certificate - he has given age as 21 (ie born 1898, not 1896) but possibly had to lie in order to get married. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but in England you had to have parential consent to marry under 21, and in his case this would be impossible to get. Did the same apply in Canada - I'm not sure?

Must be worth the £9.25 to get the cert from GRO - even iff to find his parents and eliminate him.

Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 11:52

I'm assuming that's your tree on Ancestry, showing his death in 1980 and he had been married to Kathleen Francis Ireson - although it gives no date for the marriage.

According to the tree Kathleen was born in 1900 in London.

patchem

patchem Report 3 Mar 2013 11:44

Where did the information about his birth year of 1896 come from?
Did he want to appear older than his wife?

Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 11:15

The younger child Violet Olive Howard was also shipped off to Canada with Barnados -

Violet Olive Howard
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Birth Place: London, England
Age: 13
Date of Arrival: 19 May 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Melita

Names her mother as Gertrude Howard, address unknown. But it makes it look very likely that this is the right John Thomas.

In what year did your grandparents marry?

Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 10:51

Got it, mistranscribed:

John Thomas Ellicott
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bagillt, Flintshire
Civil parish: Little Rollright and Great Rollright
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Great Rollright Chipping Norton
Registration district: Chipping Norton
Registration District Number: 157
Sub-registration district: Chipping Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 8255
Household Members: Name Age
George Barrett 66
Laura Ann Barrett 53
John Thomas Ellicott 9 <<<<<
Ronald Barrington Heddon 8
Violet Olive Howard 2

Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 10:39

Can someone check out the 1911 census on FMP - I'm getting a hit for John Thomas Elliott born *flint* living in Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire but I can't find it on Ancestry.

Household ELLIOTT, John Thomas 1902 9 M Chipping Norton Oxfordshire VIEW

It must be the one found by Patchem as according to GR he was born Flints. Bagillt

patchem

patchem Report 3 Mar 2013 09:53

Bagillt is near Holywell in Flintshire.
Births Mar 1902
Elliott John Thomas Holywell 11b 189

Other Elliott births in Holywell
Births Mar 1902
Elliott John Thomas Holywell 11b 189
Births Jun 1902
Elliott Joseph Eric Holywell 11b 206 (Added: Died Flintshire, with grandparents (as Eric) in 1911?)
Births Sep 1903
Elliott Harry Holywell 11b 210
Births Dec 1907
ELLIOTT Oswald Norman Holywell 11b 183 (Added: With parents in Yorkshire in 1911)
Births Mar 1910
ELLIOTT William John Holywell 11b (Added; Possibly died in Wales in 1987)

AnotherCanuck

AnotherCanuck Report 3 Mar 2013 07:25

Library and Archives Canada

www.collectionscanada.gc.ca

AnotherCanuck

AnotherCanuck Report 3 Mar 2013 07:24

Surname: ELLIOTTGiven Name: EnidAge: 9Sex: FShip: CorinthianYear of Arrival: 1911Departure Port: LondonDeparture Date: 1911-09-23Arrival Port: QuebecArrival Date: 1911-10-06Party: Party of GirlsDestination: Peterborough, OntarioComments: Barnardo ChildrenSource: Library and Archives CanadaReference: RG 76 C1aMicrofilm: T-4782Type of Record: Passenger Lists

Surname: ELLIOTTGiven Name: John ThomasAge: 9Sex: MShip: CorinthianYear of Arrival: 1911Departure Port: LondonDeparture Date: 1911-09-23Arrival Port: QuebecArrival Date: 1911-10-06Party: Party of BoysDestination: Toronto, OntarioComments: Barnardo ChildrenSource: Library and Archives CanadaReference: RG 76 C1aMicrofilm: T-4782Type of Record: Passenger Lists.

The above are the only John & Enid Elliott found in Library & Archives Canada re Home Children (1869 to 1930)

A/Canuck

Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 06:05

Have you checked the image for the Corinthian - John Thos Elliott was listed as 9 years old, which is rather a large discrepancy? Enid Elliott is also listed a 9.

Unknown

Unknown Report 3 Mar 2013 03:21

You people are wonderful. Im not positive on the day or month of his birthday but i am about the year 1896. I have requested info from barnardo files I am hoping for something from there. Im not totally sure of his birthplace just he put on the marriage certificate to my grandmother that his birthplace was bagillt flintshire wales. So i dont know if he even knew where he was born. Searching through census and births there is nothing connecting. It is possible Enid Elliott was his sister they both came on the same ship with the same last name,but then again i have no proof, hopefully something will come about so i can keep going. You people are ever so helpful and i am truly grateful. :-) Debbie

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Mar 2013 20:26


There is another birth,
John Evrad Elliott,,,,March 1897 reg------Llanfyllin,

There is only the Crickhowell and the one above that fits with his birth as,,31/10 1896 ......born in Wales as put by Debbie,maybe he wasnt born there?so was nearly 15 when he landed in CA..

Debbie can apply for his details...

patchem

patchem Report 2 Mar 2013 19:53

Kay,
Sorry, cannot see the one you mean, was it FMP? Ancestry has:
1901 Wales Census
John Elliott Age in 1901: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son Father's Name: Geo Elliott Mother's name: Fanny Elliott
Gender: Male Where born: Mont, Llansantffraid
Civil parish: Llansanffraid Deytheur Ecclesiastical parish: Llansanffraid ym Mechan County/Island: Montgomeryshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Llanfyllin Sub-registration district: Llansantffraid
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 8 Piece: 5204 Folio: 27n Page Number: 1
Geo Elliott 39
Fanny Elliott 38
William Elliott 17
Edith Elliott 12
Ida Elliott 9
Ethel Elliott 7
John Elliott 5
Florence Elliott 3
Stanley Elliott 11 Months

The 1911 family may have broken down, but would they claim 11 children living and 11 children showing in 1911 but not John?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Mar 2013 19:19


The birth of John Elliott,

1896,

Elliott John,,,registered as,,,,,,,Criickhowell, (Monmouthshire.

1901 Census-----A John Elliott 1896 is showing in ,,,Llansantffrend ?Monmouthshire about 10 miles away.,,,,,aged 5,........it needs a view.

Only 1 birth for 1904,

Enid Violet Elliott ----Cardiff....


Perhaps during 1911 the family broke down?

patchem

patchem Report 2 Mar 2013 16:44

Is the assumption that Enid might be his sister just because they are travelling on the same ship?
The family that I found in 1911 has all children accounted for.
If John Thomas (from the ship) was only registered as John, then Enid Violet(on the ship) may be only registered as Enid?

Unknown

Unknown Report 2 Mar 2013 15:06

WHAT A WONDERFUL BUNCH OF HELPFUL PEOPLE THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH

DEBBIE

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Mar 2013 08:16

He maybe under just John Elliott.

It maybe possible to narrow a birth entry if Debbie gives his birth month,she can then hopefully apply for a BC.

UK Barnardos will hold entry and release file information on him.

Edit,==============

Enid Violet Elliott was also on the same ship.

John Thomas Elliott birth given as,,,,,,,,31/10/1896.only a John Elliott registered Oct/Dec 1896-----BC needed.