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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Mar 2013 07:31

LancsBMD puts the birth of Henry 1918 in Morecambe.



patchem Report 28 Mar 2013 07:34

Shirley posted a Brown/Wilson marriage in Lancaster in 1913, if you look at the births, the 2 Lancaster ones would look far more likely to belong to Shirley's

Births Mar 1914
BROWN Elizabeth E Wilson Lancaster 8e 1223
Births Dec 1915
BROWN Thomas Wilson Barrow F. 8e 1103
Births Sep 1917
Brown James Wilson Barrow F 8e 1003
Births Sep 1918
Brown Henry Wilson Lancaster 8e 836

Brown and Wilson are just too common for surnames.


patchem Report 28 Mar 2013 07:46

If this is the James, 64, from 1901, being a soldier gets you around the country;
1861 England Census
James Brown Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Soldier Gender: Male
Where born: Wrentham, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Stoke Damerel County/Island: Devon Country: England
Occupation: Soldier
Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Morice
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: A4 Piece: 1452
Folio: 51

He is in family trees on ancestry, and there are claims that his Mother was unmarried at the time of his birth, and he is showing as Wincup in 1851 (not 1841) as his mother married in 1839


patchem Report 28 Mar 2013 08:01

Copied over, needs verification
1837 abt Wrentham, Suffolk, England
1837 22 Jan Wrentham, Suffolk, England
Wrentham Parish Register of births 1837 no. 741; James son of Sarah Brown washer woman (bastard)
1841 6 Jun Age: 4 Wrentham, Suffolk, England
1851 30 Mar Age: 14
Covehithe, Suffolk, England
Un married: Ag Labourer
1855 1 Mar Age: 18
Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Attested Gunner No 693 in Royal Regt of Artillery,3 Battn. Occupation at time of joining Fisherman
1855 1 May Age: 18
Between 1 May 1855 and 31 Mar 1857 he served 1yr 40 days at the Crimean war with 5 Battn, for which he received medal for Crimea & clasp for Sebastopol, and the Turkish war medal
1861 7 Apr Age: 24
New Granby Horse Artillery Barracks, Stoke Demerel, Devon
un married: Gunner Royal Artillery
1865 30 Nov Age: 28
Ballincollig, Ierland
Proceedings of Regimental Board, in conformity to the Articles of War, for the purpose of verifying and recording the service conduct, character and cause of discharge of No 693 Gunner James Brown. He was found medically unfit to serve due to a hernia
1866 26 Dec Age: 29
Cork, Ireland
Discharged from service on completion of 10 yrs 301 days. His intended place of residence; Wrentham, Suffolk.
Marriage to Mary Keilly
1866 bet Age: 29 Cork, Ireland Vol 20; page 98
1866 Age: 29 Cork, Ireland
1871 2 Apr Age: 34 42 Crown Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire
married: Labourer
Marriage to Emma Maria Oliver
1873 25 Jan Age: 36
Golcar, Huddesfield, West Riding Yorkshire, England
St Johns Parish Church. in the presence of William Heaton and Emily Dyson
1881 3 Apr Age: 44
51 Napier Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire
married: Foundry Labourer
1891 5 Apr Age: 54
51 Napier St, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire
married: General Labourer
1901 31 Mar Age: 64
10 Drake St, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire
married: Labourer Steel Works
1910 2 Mar Age: 73
41 Byron Street Barrow in Furness
Senile decay cardiac failure: Army Pensioner


Unknown Report 28 Mar 2013 09:18

patchem- I think we are on the same track, but I think I am going to have order Henry's birth cert.


Reggie Report 28 Mar 2013 09:20

This is what you posted in response to my post

Yes i have done research and using the information from the marriage certificate and the 1911 Household Census I have located his birth details, and have tracked his antecedants back for 4 generations.


If you are not 100% sure of his can you have achieved this?

There is NO birth in England/Wales for Henry Briard Brown


Unknown Report 28 Mar 2013 09:34

Rose- I don't have James and Henry in the same tree. In Henry's tree I have Annie Wilson Brown ( sister) born approx 1909 Thomas Brown born Oct-Nov- Dec quarter 1915 both in Barrow. But I have not searched for any other siblings Then comes Henry Jul-Aug-Sep quarter 1918 but born in Lancaster. I will order this birth certificate, Maiden name of mother was Wilson. I do have a James married to Emma M Brown as Henry's grandparents in 1891 Census AND in the 1901 census they show a Henry Brown living with them as a grandson but he is aged 12 so it cannot be Henry Briard Brown.( my father)