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John & Lilly Deakin St Helens Lancashire b 1907/10

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 May 2013 10:14

The only sure way to check is to purchase her MC.
If you intend to use gro, you need this reference as previously posted - or check to see if she is named on any other members trees and make contact.

Marriages Mar 1932 (>99%)
Deakin Lily Lane Prescot 8b 1055
Lane James Deakin Prescot 8b 1055

Nigel

Nigel Report 8 May 2013 08:34

An update on my research. (freebmd.org)

It does look very likely John is John Henry, but sadly it looks like he died age 16.

Nothing firm on Lily, either married LANE or died unmarried age 61.

Nigel

Nigel Report 7 May 2013 19:56

Annie Ludlow b 1885 (cert). Married 1905 John Alfred Deakin (Prescot) .
d 1968 St Helens.

John Alfred Deakin d about 1939.

Other than 1911 census nothing else on John & Lilly Deakin,

Louis never spoke much about his family, my Dad remembers visiting relatives near the address in the 1911 census other family members. Most of the houses were knocked down 30+ years ago.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 May 2013 12:22

How recent have you got with the Annie Ludlow siblings?

1881 census???

Henry Charles Ludlow
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Ludlow
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles Parish of, Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eccleston in Prescot
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 74 Eccleston St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Carpenter & Joiner
Henry Charles Ludlow 31
Mary Jane Ludlow 24
Charles Henry Ludlow 3
Thomas Ludlow 1 <<< on 1911 census

1891
Henry C Ludlow
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Ludlow
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eccleston
Henry C Ludlow 42
Mary J Ludlow 33
Charles H Ludlow 13
Thomas Ludlow 10 <<<<
Annie Ludlow 5 <<<<
Lily Ludlow 3
James Ludlow 3/12
Albert Ludlow 8

Not seeing them in 1901.

As you have already done a fair bit of research, addtional information would help

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 May 2013 11:47

a Margaret M Lane married a Jack Hague in 1954 - St Helens

There is an announcement for a Jack Hague's death in 2007 in the Birkenhead area http://www.yourannouncement.co.uk/67222

However, the son mentioned was likely to be born in Sheffield 10 years after the marriage. Different family or the same??? He might also have a sister born 6 years after the marriage - record index on GR

Try search 192.com for the son and his named wife - it's pay to view - or face book for the relatives named on the announcement

Nigel

Nigel Report 7 May 2013 11:20

Thanks to all for their info so far.

To expand I am Louis Ludlows Grandson. I have data on Ludlow Ancestors back into 1700's. Annie Ludlows siblings have been difficult to find descendants from and being just over a 100 years ago records aren't public.

Annie married John and in the 1911 census they have John & Lilly. Both first and surnames are very popular in the area and the trail is lost very soon.

So any info on this branch will be very interesting, I might find a living relative from that side.

Thanks

Nigel.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 May 2013 10:17

Sorry! ;-) :-D

Margaret M's probable marriage is on GR, but not freebmd - haven't looked for Mary

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 May 2013 10:16

I thought I'd let Nigel find the marriage and births................

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 May 2013 10:03

2 Lane/Deakin births listed on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Margaret M Lane - 1932
Mary L Lane - 1934

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 May 2013 09:59

From http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

DEAKIN Lily m LANE James at Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended register held at Prescot reference R/141/174

Same info from Freebmd

Marriages Mar 1932 (>99%)
Deakin Lily Lane Prescot 8b 1055
Lane James Deakin Prescot 8b 1055

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 May 2013 09:39

Death

Name: LANE, Lily
Registration district: St. Helens
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1959
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:49
Volume no: 10F
Page no: 550

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 May 2013 09:31

Death

Name: DEAKIN, John H
Registration district: Prescot
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1923
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:16
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 865

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 May 2013 09:24

????????????

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
WOODWARD Henry Ludlow Prescot 8b 1496
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Woodward Leslie Ludlow Prescot 8b 1447
Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Woodward Stanley Ludlow Prescot 8b 1452
Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Woodward Wilfred Ludlow Prescot 8b 1158
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Woodward Doric Ludlow Prescot 8b 1914
Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Woodward May Ludlow Prescot 8b 1536


There is NO Woodward/Ludlow marriage between 1873 and 1939

Nor is there a Woodward/ Annie Deakin marriage

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 May 2013 09:22

Taking a stab in the dark - Nigel might be descended from the Louis Ludlow on the 1911 or a different child born to Annie Ludlow before her marriage to John Deakin.

Louis was also born in St Helens

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 May 2013 09:15

You refer to Annie as your great-grandmother, but do not suggest any relationship with either of her children.............

Please clarify.............

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 May 2013 09:08

Look for info on.................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Look on here in 'search all trees' to discover whether anyone else is researching these people

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 May 2013 00:35

John is John Henry which might help with searches

Births Sep 1906 (>99%)
Deakin John Henry Prescot v8b p827

No middle initial for Lily
Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
DEAKIN Lily Prescot 8b 7_8

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 6 May 2013 23:29

1911
Name: John Deakin
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: St Helens
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 76 Eccleston St St Helens Lancashire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer Sheet Glass Works
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Piece: 22787
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Charles Ludlow 56
Thomas Ludlow 31
Annie Deakin 27
John Deakin 31
Louis Ludlow 9
John Deakin 4 ........... b. St Helens, Lancs.
Lily Deakin 1 ...........b. St Helens, Lancs.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 6 May 2013 23:22

Marriages Dec 1905


DEAKIN John Alfred ..Prescot 8b 1067

LUDLOW Annie ..Prescot 8b 1067

Nigel

Nigel Report 6 May 2013 22:34

John & Lilly Deakin, St Helens Lancashire b 1907 and 1910

Parents John A Deakin & Annie Ludlow ( my Great Grandmother)

Looking for any help on their descendants.

Thanks

Regaards