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Looking for Kenneth John Patrick dyer

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Tracey

Tracey Report 8 Jun 2013 19:37

I'm trying to trace my father.he was in the kings own regiment in the 60s.he was posted to british Guiana where he met my mother and they married in 1966.i was born in dartford Kent in 1968.my parents divorced and I returned to Guyana.as I don't know his date of birth it's very difficult to find any trace of him.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Jun 2013 20:40

Do you have your parent's marriage certificate? That should give you his age at the time of marriage so you can work out roughly when he was born. If you don't have it this is the reference to buy it from the GRO:-

Armed Forces registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: Kenneth J P Dyer married Mary J Da Silva

Name: DYER, Kenneth J P
Post: Georgetown
Country: British Guiana
Year: 1966
Volume: F (British armed forces - Army, Royal Air Force and Royal Navy)
Page: 301

Spouse's last name: Da Silva
Record source: GRO Marriages Abroad (1966 to 1994)
Name: DA SILVA, Mary J
County: British Guiana
Year: 1966
Volume : F (British armed forces - Army, Royal Air Force and Royal Navy)
Page 301
Spouse's last name Dyer
Record source: GRO Marriages Abroad (1966 to 1994)

Kath. x

patchem

patchem Report 8 Jun 2013 20:41

Welcome to the boards, Tracey.

Does the marriage certificate give his father's name?

Thank-you

Tracey

Tracey Report 8 Jun 2013 20:49

I don't have the marriage certificate Kathleen,can I pull it up from here?im still finding my way around the site.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Jun 2013 21:01

You can only see what is on a marriage certificate from that sort of date by purchasing it. You can order online from here:-

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

It will cost £9. 25p

Make sure you specify "overseas marriages" and when the form asks if the full GRO reference is known make sure you tick the "yes" box.

Kath. x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jun 2013 21:12

Not seeing any info at all for him . His age at marriage would help

Tracey

Tracey Report 8 Jun 2013 21:30

Thanks Kathleen,I will have to phone as I only have yr of marriage

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jun 2013 21:40

There is no need to phone (although of course it is up to you). If you are still in Guyana it could be quite expensive and you'll have to calculate the time differences!

Contact details from gro site
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Telephone
You can contact us by telephone on +44 (0)300 123 1837 (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday. Saturday 9am to 4pm). Calls to 0300 numbers cost no more that calls to UK numbers starting 01 and 02 and should be part of any inclusive minutes that apply to your provider and call package. Please note your call may be recorded for training and monitoring purposes.
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Kathleen has given you the gro references to order the certificate on line

Name: DYER, Kenneth J P
Post: Georgetown
Country: British Guiana
Year: 1966
Volume: F (British armed forces - Army, Royal Air Force and Royal Navy)
Page: 301

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Jun 2013 21:53

The King's Own Royal Regiment was a Lancashire Regiment, which bore that name until 1959.........

..........thereafter, upon amalgamation with the Border Regiment, it became the King's Own Royal Border Regiment



KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT - Find Friends and Information ...
www.forcesreunited.org.uk/.../units/.../Kings-Own-Royal-Regiment.html?
Kings Own Royal Regiment - Find Friends and Information from Kings Own Royal Regiment at Forces Reunited.

There is no recorded birth in England/Wales for Kenneth J P Dyer

Tracey

Tracey Report 8 Jun 2013 21:55

Hi and thanks for the reply.i lived in Guyana until I was 11,in cambridge now.i went to order marriage certificate but it asked for exact date of marriage which I don't have

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Jun 2013 21:58

You don't need dates when ordering on line from the GRO and quoting their references

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jun 2013 22:08

Agree with Reggie - I've just done a 'pretend' order using the details given by Kathleen. It was accepted with out asking for the actual date of marriage.

After you’ve registered/logged in, the next page is asking for about certificate choice.
Find the section (2nd down) which says

*For overseas events which were registered with the British authorities:*

Click the Marriage Certificate (overseas events)
Para headed ‘for all events’
Tick ‘yes’ against ‘is the GRO Index Reference Number known?’
In the box below that type 1966

Then submit.

Next page
Mans surname – Dyer
Man’s forenames – Kenneth J P (because that’s what’s on the gro index)
GRO reference – volume F

Then carry on as per the instructions on the page
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Its possible that your father wasn't born in England or Wales, or was adopted. Both reasons would explain why we can't can't find his birth.

Tracey

Tracey Report 8 Jun 2013 22:14

Thank you for that,I will have to phone my gran in Trinidad.over the yrs my father was never spoken about

Tracey

Tracey Report 8 Jun 2013 22:56

My father was adopted,according to my gran he was Australian and was adopted by Henry dyer who was from dartford Kent where I was born.henry had another son Tom dyer.i dont know the circumstances as to why he was adopted.this has opened up a can of worms.what do I do now?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Jun 2013 23:58

Is it possible that this is the Henry Dyer who adopted your father in the 1911 census with his own parents:-

1911 census transcription details for: 31 Great Queen St Dartford

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN3774 RG78PN143 RD43 SD3 ED12 SN172
Reg. District: Dartford
Sub District: Dartford
Parish: Dartford
Enum. District: 12

Address: 31 Great Queen St Dartford
County: Kent

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

DYER, Thomas Head Married M 44 1867 Millwright General Labourer Hoster
DYER, Susan Wife Married
19 years F 38 1873 Lancashire Barwick
DYER, Albert Victor Son Single M 18 1893 Mill Hand Calendar Kent Dartford
DYER, William Thomas Son Single M 14 1897 Shop Boy Camberwell
DYER, Charles George Son Single M 12 1899 School Kent Dartford
DYER, Henry Baden Son Single M 10 1901 School Kent Dartford<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I would put some of these names into the "search" at the top right of the screen and then click on "search all trees". You may find someone else on Genes has some of these people in their tree. You can then make direct contact with any of these people by clicking on their names.

EDIT - have just checked and there are three people who have a Henry Dyer born 1900 in Dartford in their trees.

Kath. x

Tracey

Tracey Report 9 Jun 2013 00:16

Thanks Kathleen,you are amazing.i will do that.how do you find all this information.i must be looking in all the wrong places

jax

jax Report 9 Jun 2013 01:07

This could be the son Tom

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
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Dyer Thomas F W Quinn Dartford 2a 958 Scan available - click to view

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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Thomas Francis W Dyer
Name:
Thomas Francis W Dyer
Birth Date:
14 Sep 1924
Date of Registration:
Mar 1997
Age at Death:
72
Registration District:
Gravesend
Inferred County:
Kent
Register Number:
T22B
District and Subdistrict:
5621B
Entry number:
118

parents marriage

Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Dyer Henry B Quinn Woolwich 1d 2437 Scan available - click to view
Quinn Lydia Dyer Woolwich 1d 2437 Scan available - click to view

jax

jax Report 9 Jun 2013 01:19

It looks like Thomas had 3 children and if you search for him in the trees on here there is someone called Linda that has him in her tree (poss daughter)...membership number begins 101***** which is newer than the membership number she used for Henry so you would be more likely to get a reply

Tracey

Tracey Report 9 Jun 2013 01:24

I've just found her and the 3 Henry dyers so ill get in touch,thank you

jax

jax Report 9 Jun 2013 01:45

You have found the newer membership number I take it?