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Stella Report 10 Jul 2013 03:48

Good Afternoon Everyone

I have just received Ann Spencer MALIN and James SMITH's Marriage Certificate and it has James' father as John Smith - how difficult will that be to further my research!!:)

Unfortunately Ann has just a line through Father's name and profession so once again I have that mystery.

I am concluding that as the IGI entry stated ther mother was Elizabeth Malin she was not married.

The 1841 Census with Ann living with a William Malin aged 61 I am now guessing may have been her maternal grandfather.

This is all guesswork and so it looks like I have come up against a brickwall.

Thank you all anyway for your help.
Kind regards
Stella Smith
New Zealand


Stella Report 8 Jul 2013 05:18

I am sure you are correct Patchem. There must be a good reason that Ann was given Spencer as her second name. Can't wait for the marriage certificate. Will let you all know. Hopefully it will be here in about 5 or so days.


patchem Report 7 Jul 2013 20:06

The marriage certificate might have an interesting invented name for the Father, always worth getting just to see..... (particularly if it is Mr Spencer)


MarieCeleste Report 7 Jul 2013 10:47

Unfortunately, the link to remove the marked as answered tick no longer works ..


Stella Report 7 Jul 2013 09:17

Hello Everyone

I have tried to untick the MARKED AS ANSWERED area at the top left hand corner but am unable to untick it so that that post can continue. Any advice on how to do so or link my 2 threads (yes I did start another one and am sorry to confuse everyone by doing so:)

Thank you for all help received - I am a very inexperienced family history searcher and not so great on the computer either - my husband always says I click on things too quickly.



patchem Report 6 Jul 2013 09:42

Is this Ann in 1841` - there are more Malins on the adjacent household?
1841 England Census
Ann Malin Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Wolfhamcote Hundred: Knightlow (Southam Division)
County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration District: Rugby Sub-registration District: Dunchurch
Piece: 1138 Book: 23 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4
William Malin 62
Ann Malin 18
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1138; Book: 23; Civil Parish: Wolfhamcote; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 5; Page: 4; Line: 18; GSU roll: 464177.

Next door, Henry Malin, 35, Rachel, 39, Sarah, 9, William, 7, Harriet,6, Thomas,3

Could you untick the mark as answered, as I do not think we have found what you wanted?


patchem Report 6 Jul 2013 09:00

Just putting family in 1851, as I thought Naomi was female:
1851 England Census
James Smith Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Smith
Gender: M (Male) Where born: Napton, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Long Itchington County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration District: Southam Sub-registration District: Southam
ED, institution, or vessel: 12c Household Schedule Number: 29 Piece: 2077 Folio: 222 Page Number: 9
James Smith 31
Ann Smith 28 Sawbridge, Warwickshire,
Edi Smith 3
George Bartlett N K lodger
Mary A Bartlett 10 lodger
Morris Smith 3 Mo (NO, NAOMI)
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2077; Folio: 222; Page: 9; GSU roll: 87346.

A correction has also been submitted for Edi/Eli's name on ancestry census. He (MartinSpencer ?) could be a relative, so worth trying to contact him also.


patchem Report 6 Jul 2013 08:46

Her Father's name will be on her marriage certificate - suggest you buy it for confirmation.
Have you attempted to find her in 1841 census?
Have you also looked on IGI for possible birth?

For ref. born Wolfhamcote, Warwickshire, according to 1861 census.


Penny Report 6 Jul 2013 06:03

top right a tab 'search'

enter the name you seek and see if they are in anyone elses tree, you can tweak dates & things, and see for yourself

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered


Stella Report 6 Jul 2013 03:19

Ann Malin married James Smith in 1846 at Napton on Hill, Warwickshire. She was born in 1822.

Has anyone this person on their tree - I would dearly love to know who her parents were. At one time I did think her mother was an Elizabeth but also thought it may have been a Hannah. Both names may have had me going down the wrong track:)

Ann and James had several children - Eli, Naomi, Ellen, Albert and Harriett. Eli and his wife Harriett Ainge came to NZ and he was my husband's great grandfather.

Would love to know more about his family in Warwickshire.

Thank you for reading this email
Stella Smith
New Zealand