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William James Fowler born 1882 in Lewisham

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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 23 Sep 2013 11:02

I am trying to find living descendants of William James Fowler - a policeman who was last heard of in Arbour Square Stepney on the 1911 census. He was a son of bricklayer James WIlliam Fowler. He seems to have vanished into thin air after that so I am wondering if there is any way of tracing where he went and if he stayed married to Emily. If only we could see the 1921 census!!! Tree searches have not thrown up anything. Any ideas please? :-(

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 11:25

have you looked on FreeBMD for his marriage plus any children he had .

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 11:37

so married for about 1 year

1911 England Census about William Fowler
Name: William Fowler
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Arbour Square, Stepney E
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Occupation: POLICE CONSTABLE
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Registration District Number: 21
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town South Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 1593
Household Members:
Name Age
William Fowler 29
Emily Fowler 28
Ida Fowler 0
Florence Woollcott 31

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 1593.


not seeing a marriage but the birth cert will give mmn

Births Mar 1911
Fowler Ida L Mile End 1c 371


possible marriage

Name: Ida L Fowler
Spouse Surname: Scott
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration District: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2523
Find Spouse: Frederick W Scott

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 11:50

Name: William James Fowler
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1910
Registration District: Whitechapel
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 331
spouse Emily Maude Woollcott


another son so they moved to the Bromley area which is where Ida later marriaed

Births Mar 1918
Fowler James T Woolcott Bromley 2a 768


Name: James Thomas Fowler
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1918
Date of Registration: Dec 1996
Age at Death: 78
Registration District: Croydon
Inferred County: London, Surrey
Register Number: C72B
District and Subdistrict: 2251C
Entry number: 202

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 11:53

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Emily M Fowler
Name: Emily M Fowler
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jun 1968
Age at Death: 90
Registration District: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5a
Page: 327

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 11:55

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about William J Fowler
Name: William J Fowler
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Mar 1956
Age at Death: 74
Registration District: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 152

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 11:58


Name: Ida Lilian Scott
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1911
Date of Registration: Jul 1988
Age at Death: 77
Registration District: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 11
Page: 1127


a son was born in 1941 Bromley reg district look on FreeBMD

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 23 Sep 2013 12:47

Wow! That is marvellous. Thanks so much. I have something to work with now.
regards
jennifer

Reggie

Reggie Report 23 Sep 2013 14:18

Freebmd was mentioned.............this is the URL

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Use the site for info up to around 1955

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 23 Sep 2013 15:02

So, William James Fowler died in Beckenham Kent in March 1956 and I have just seen his Probate record and even though he has a living wife, and possibly a living son and a living daughter - the solicitor inherits. So I presume he left a will cutting them out. What a mystery!!

Thanks all - any further theories welcome!

Jennifer

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Sep 2013 17:27

Another son:

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Fowler Ernest R Woollcott Bromley 2a 1033

Rose

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 17:36



It doesn't mean the solicitor inherited . it means he appointed the solicitor to be the executor who applied for probate so he could distribute the assets according to the will .

You can apply for a copy of the will to

The Probate Department of the Principal
Registry of the Family Division
First Avenue House, 42 - 49 High Holborn, London, WC1V 6NP
Tel: +44 (0)20 7947 6939
http://212.137.36.113/cms/wills.htm



found by googling
When someone dies, you may be able to apply for a ‘grant of representation’. This gives you the legal right to deal with the person’s property, money and possessions (their ‘estate’). The right to deal with the estate of someone who’s died is called ‘probate’.

You can apply yourself or use a solicitor.

Most cases follow the same basic process.

Check if there’s a will - this normally states who sorts out the estate; if there’s no will the next of kin can apply.
Apply to get a ‘grant of representation’ - this gives you the legal right to access things like the person’s bank account.
Pay Inheritance Tax - this is only paid if the estate’s worth over £325,000 and is part of applying for a grant of representation - once you’ve paid any tax due, you can collect the assets.
Collect the assets - eg money from the sale of the person’s property.
Pay any debts - eg unpaid utilities bills.
Distribute the estate - this means giving any property, money or possessions to the people entitled to it (‘beneficiaries’).

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 23 Sep 2013 22:56

Thanks Shirley - That is very helpful.
regards,
jennifer