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Hi,
Looking for information on Hannah Bartlett and Elizabeth Deasy who lived in the North London area in 1937. From records I believe Hannah Bartlett lived there until around 1953.
Thanks,

Some idea of the birth years would help. And maybe some family connections too

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Name: Elizabeth Deasy
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Mar 1954
Age at Death: 84
Registration District: Harrow
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5f
Page: 451

Name: Elizabeth Deasy
Year: 1947
County or Borough: Harrow
Ward or Division/Constituency: Harrow West
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0715
4 grove hill road with a Dorothy L Brazier

Have you done any research yourself?

Hi Ann and welcome to the boards.

As Shirley posted........please can you give us info as to when these two ladies were born?

Were they married........or are the names you gave their maiden names?

Please could we have some answers to the questions you have been asked?
Thank you,
Regards,
Peter

If she was born in 1870, the most obvious Elizabeth Deasy on the 1911 census is living in Manchester (married), so this is why information about these ladies would help.
Thanks

I don't know the birth years of either but Elizabeth did give birth to a baby girl in 1937. I have searched for marriage certs for both but unable to locate any.

Does the birth certificate show that Elizabeth Deasy was unmarried?

Any further information about Hannah?

If the child of Elizabeth was adopted, do you have the adoption files?

Thank-you

Added
Birth?
Elizabeth Deasy
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1915
Registration District: Strand
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 577
But image not available to check on ancestry, and not showing on free bmd.

There is a possible marriage showing in Hendon in 1945 (from ancestry) unfortunately to a Walker.

I cannot see that birth in 1937, could you post any further details?

Added:
One showing in 1938, so birth at the end of 1937, in Hampstead?

There's another Deasy birth in Hampstead in 1945. Is this related?

Rose

Patchem,

That birth showing on Ancestry must be this one:

Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
Deasy Elizabeth Strand 1b 577

Strand district ceased to exist after 1913.

Rose

Is a birth for Elizabeth in Ireland most likely?

There are Elizabeth Deasy births there in
1903
1904
1912
1913
1917
1918

just looking for births between 1900 and 1922 in connection with a birth in 1937

https://familysearch.org/search

but the information available there does not include anything beyond name (some have middle names), date and place

If that is the case she might have returned there.

Hi
The birth of baby was the end of December 1937 in Hampstead.
As there was no fathers name on the birth cert I assume the mother was unmarried.
I'm not aware of any other Deasy birth in same area in 1945. Where could I see this birth cert?
Baby was not legally adopted so no files available.

Thanks for help.

If you look on free bmd births, you will find another Deasy/Deasy birth in 1945 in Hampstead.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

You can apply for the birth certificate if you follow through on the links given.

If the baby was not legally adopted, then more information must have been known by other people?

How does Hannah Bartlett fit in (foster mother?) - and do you have any indication of her age?

Hi,
Thanks for this information.

Older relatives did not have much information (or would not share it)
Elizabeth Deasy was a 'Domestic' in Hannah Bartlett's house.
Hannah Bartlett was listed as Elizabeths next of kin. I have no idea of her age.

These are Hannah Bartletts who die after 1963 in the London area.
But she could have easily moved away from London (or Hannah might have been her middle name).

Hannah M Bartlett abt 1885 Jun 1966 Bexley Greater London
Hannah Florence Bartlett 1894 Jun 1978 Wandsworth Greater London
Hannah Bartlett 1900 Aug 1990 Lewisham London

I have looked up 'North London' as I was getting confused, apologies to those who know it already, unfortunately none of those deaths in North London:

'City of London and the London boroughs of Barking and Dagenham, Barnet, Brent, Camden, Ealing, Enfield, Hackney, Hammersmith and Fulham, Haringey, Harrow, Havering, Hillingdon, Hounslow, Islington, Kensington and Chelsea, Newham, Redbridge, Tower Hamlets, Waltham Forest, and Westminster.'

Sounds like you have an address. Have you considered looking at old electoral rolls to find who was living there? These can be found at the library closest to the address.

Rose

Following on the idea of a birth in Ireland, two members of this website have the name Elizabeth Deasy in the right era in their trees, born 1900 (which sounds estimated?) and 1912 in Ireland. You could contact them, to rule them out if possible if nothing else.

Also at FamilySearch it shows four Elizabeth Deasy marriages in Ireland after 1937
1946
1947
1952
1958

The Irish births and marriages are concentrated in Cork.