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Leslie

Leslie Report 21 Mar 2014 19:20

I'm trying to find living relatives of John Ralph Simmons of Kent, all my enquiries so far have been in vain.
Thank you.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Mar 2014 20:09

When was John born? Could you please indicate what research you have made yourself?

*If* you've asked about him before, it's best to add to that thread rather than for other people to repeat the search.

Thank you

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Mar 2014 20:12

There are 2 trees on GR, who list a John Ralph Simmons

1908 Halling, Kent ...
1870 Frindsbury, Kent

England & Wales births 1837-2006
First Name JOHN RALPH
Last Name SIMMONS
Birth Year 1869
Gender Male
Mother's Maiden Name
Year 1869
Country England
County Kent
Event Quarter 4
District NORTH AYLESFORD
District Number
Volume 2A
Page 415
Entry Number
Line Number 136

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
First Name JOHN RALPH
Last Name SIMMONS
Gender Male
Year 1893
Spouse
Image Quarter 4
Country England
County Kent
District MALLING
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 2A
Page 1101
...............

England & Wales births 1837-2006
First Name JOHN RALPH
Last Name SIMMONS
Birth Year 1907
Gender Male
Mother's Maiden Name
Year 1907
Country England
County Kent
Event Quarter 2
District STROOD
District Number
Volume 2A
Page 735

patchem

patchem Report 21 Mar 2014 20:15

Was he born and died in Kent - a little more information would be useful.

Thank-you

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Mar 2014 20:26

John 1869 & John 1907 were father and son

1911 England Census about John Ralph Simmons
Name: John Ralph Simmons
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lower Halling, Kent
Civil Parish: Halling
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 3 Poynder Terrace, Lower Halling Near Rochester
Registration district: Strood
Registration District Number: 45
Sub-registration district: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 167
Piece: 3862
Household Members:
Name Age
John Ralph Simmons 41
Maude Simmons 41
Ethel Maude Simmons 15
John Ralph Simmons 3

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Mar 2014 20:27

????

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about John Ralph Simmons
Name: John Ralph Simmons
Birth Date: 20 Apr 1907
Date of Registration: May 1994
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Darlington
Inferred County: Durham, Yorkshire
Register Number: A48E
District and Subdistrict: 4361A
Entry Number: 87

The informant could be a relative

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Mar 2014 20:36

???? R could be something other than Ralph

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
First Name JOHN R
Last Name SIMMONS
Gender Male
Year 1933
Spouse BRADFORD
Image Quarter 4
Country England
County Kent
District MEDWAY
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 2A
Page 1958
Line Number 109

Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


Spouse MatchSpouse Match: John R SIMMONS married Dorothy C BRADFORD

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Mar 2014 20:44

Freebmd shows a John Simmons mmn Bradford b 2Q 1934 Medway

GR shows with same mmn also in Medway gives Peter Simmons 3Q 1935

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Mar 2014 20:54

Peter might have married Sharon R in 1976 in Medway

(this does sound familiar!)

If you haven't already, buy the DC for John Ralph Simmons as posted earlier

Leslie

Leslie Report 21 Mar 2014 21:20

Thank you for the replies posted here and yes, John Ralph Simmons b.1870 Frindsbury is one ancestor I've researched, and the information given here supports what I have found out about him, and I'd like to answer a question asked here and that is I have never looked for this ancestor on GR before.
I will go through what has been posted here, and check my notes and see if I can learn from the information given.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 23:33

When you ask for help, it is essential that you give date info at the start.

If you wish to find connections on GR, use the 'search all member trees' facility - under the 'search' button

The man in question is in a member's tree..............although not in yours.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Mar 2014 00:30

As you haven't asked about this family before, I must have been confusing it with a different family - sorry.

There are 2 marriages which could be relevant for Ethel, but you'd really need to buy the certificates before proceeding.

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Ethel M Simmons
Name: Ethel M Simmons
Spouse Surname: Stroud - William H
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938
Registration district: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 3290

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Ethel M Simmons
Name: Ethel M Simmons
Spouse Surname: Collison - Alfred L
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1078

Before rejecting the 1938 one out of hand, we have to remember that a massive number of young men in Ethel's generation were killed in WW1. A large number of women died as spinsters, or married widowers in their middle age.

Leslie

Leslie Report 22 Mar 2014 15:32

I have found that John Ralph died in 1952 in Rochester, and I am looking into the two marriages listed here.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2014 16:28

Do you intend to try to contact the member researching this man?