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Tessie Edwards born in Bridgend 1924

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Carole

Carole Report 25 Mar 2014 17:48

Hi. My mum's name was Tessie Edwards, born 1924, daughter of Annie Nicholas and William Edwards. They lived in Bridgened, Glamorganshire. Tessie married Ernest Charles Skinner from Bideford area and later moved to Dorset. I know she had at least one sister but I am trying to trace any additional brothers or sisters and their children (my cousins).
Thank you.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Mar 2014 17:53

This is from Freebmd - go here:

:http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

If you look for other Edwards/Nicholas births you might be able to pin down names of any siblings:

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
Edwards Tessie C Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1486

Jan

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Mar 2014 18:12

Can't see a marriage for the parents under the names quoted........perhaps the mother had been married before?

It might be a worthwhile investment to get a copy of your mother's birth cert.............

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Mar 2014 19:29

???
Civil Registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: William H Edwards married Annie B M Nicholas
Name: EDWARDS, William H
Registration district: Swansea
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1925
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Nicholas
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 1967

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 25 Mar 2014 19:37

The marriage was in Bournemouth:

Marriages Sep 1946 (>99%)
Edwards Tessie C Skinner Bournemouth 6b 404
Skinner Ernest J Edwards Bournemouth 6b 404

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 25 Mar 2014 20:05

Possible brother Randolph born in Bridgend who also married in Bournemouth, which might suggest the whole family moved there.

Rose

Carole

Carole Report 25 Mar 2014 20:16

Sorry, I forgot to add that the marriage was in Bournemouth. I think work took them there as he (Ernest) was a train driver. I think I have traced Annie Edwards's (nee Nicholas) place of death in Swansea in 1953. There are 7 possible sibblings of Tessie all from Bridgend but 2 of them died at infancy. Thank you all for your help, I am new to this but completely hooked!!
Carole

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Mar 2014 22:19

Thanks Stuart.......

Foolishly, I set an end date of 1924.................didn't consider that the marriage would be so long after the birth..........

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Mar 2014 22:40

I'm not seeing a death in 1953 for an Annie Edwards in Wales. If the marriage above is correct, then you're looking for an Annie BM Edwards. There is this one

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: EDWARDS, Annie Beatrice M
Registration district: Swansea
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1977
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of birth: 13 September 1902
Volume no: 27
Page no: 2201

which would correspond with this birth
Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: NICHOLAS, Annie Beatrice M
Registration district: Llandilofawr
County: Carmarthenshire
Year of registration: 1902
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 1216

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And this is possibly her on the 1911 census as Beatrice

1911 census transcription details for: Brookfield Penygroes Llandebie

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN32976 RG78PN1891 RD598 SD6 ED3 SN100
Reg. District: Llandilofawr
Sub District: Llandybie
Parish: Llanfihangel Aberbythych
Enum. District: 3
Address: Brookfield Penygroes Llandebie
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NICHOLAS, Daniel Head Married M 33 1878 Haulier Under Ground Llangadock Carmarthen
NICHOLAS, Annie Wife Married 9 years F 39 1872 Llanarthney Carmthen
NICHOLAS, Beatrice Daughter F 8 1903 School Llanfihangel Camarthen
NICHOLAS, Edgar Son M 3 1908 Llanfihangel Camarthen
NICHOLAS, Tom Son M 1 1910 Llanfihangel Camarthen

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 25 Mar 2014 23:04

Carole,

I still think you should get your mum's birth cert.

How accurate are the names you have for your grandparents?

You say Ernest's middle name was Charles but the marriage is for a Ernest J and there's no birth for him that fits in Bideford.

Rose

Carole

Carole Report 25 Mar 2014 23:37

Hello Rose. My mistake again. Its Ernest John Skinner, not Charles. And I have ordered my mother's birth certificate already. And Stuart, I will double check the Middle name of Annie however, it was the only Annie in that area to marry an Edwards which was my mother's maiden name so I am going on this, Thank you again for all your help.
Carolee

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 26 Mar 2014 02:57

Carole,

If Randolph is Tessie's brother, then there's a possible son called Mark who has him on his tree on this site.

Go to Search and Search All Member Trees at the top to look for Randolph.

Rose

Carole

Carole Report 30 Mar 2014 16:22

Just to let you all know, I'm not ignoring your comments, I am away for a couple of days but will resume this thread next week.
Thank you

Carole

Carole Report 17 Apr 2014 15:09

Further to our previous conversations, I have now discovered to my disappointment that I have been researching the wrong names!!!! Grrr, How could I be so stupid?? My mother's mum and dad's names were Harriet Nicholas who's dad was Joseph Nicholas and her dad's name was Thomas John Edward who's dad was Jenkin Thomas Edwards. The married in Llangynwyd, Glamorganshire in 1902. No wonder no one was responding to me!!

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 06:47

So this marriage;

Marriages Mar 1902
Edwards Thomas Bridgend 11a 1060
Nicholas Harriet Bridgend 11a 1060

How old were they at marriage?

And your mother was born 22 years after the marriage?

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 06:56

?
1911 Wales Census
Thomas Edwards Age in 1911: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male
Birth Place: Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Higher Llangynwyd
County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Street address: 16 John St Nantyffyllon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 9 Estimated Marriage Year: 1902
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer Registration district: Bridgend
Registration District Number: 591 Sub-registration district: Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Household schedule number: 140 Piece: 32531
Thomas Edwards 29
Marriet Edwards 28 Everyone born Maesteg
Thomas John Edwards 8
Provis May Edwards 7 Francis Mary?
Evelyn Mayd Edwards 6
Joseph Jenkin Edwards 3
Eliza Devnet Edwards 2 Elizabeth Harriet?
David Henry Edwards 5/12
Charlotte Howells 56 Mother-in-law married 14 years no children
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32531; Schedule Number: 140.

So quite a lot of siblings for your Mother if they continued having children for 22 years of marriage (or more)

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 07:05

Just for background:
1891 Wales Census
Joseph Nicholas Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Nicholas
Gender: Male Where born: Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Higher Llangynwyd Ecclesiastical parish: Llangynwyd
Town: Maes teg (Maestag) County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Piece: 4449 Folio: 20 Page Number: 33
Joseph Nicholas 42
Charlotte Nicholas 34
Charlotte Ann Nicholas 13
David John Nicholas 10
xxxxxHarriet Nicholas 8
Thomas Nicholas 5
Richard Brown 65
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4449; Folio: 20; Page: 33; GSU Roll: 6099559.

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 07:25

Births Sep 1902
Edwards Thomas John Bridgend 11a 901

?
Births Dec 1903
EDWARDS Frances May Bridgend 11a 822

Which one?
Births Mar 1905
Edwards Evelyn Maud Bridgend 11a 974
Edwards Evelyn Maud Bridgend 11a 911

Births Jun 1908
Edwards Joseph Jenkin Bridgend 11a 943

Births Jun 1909
EDWARDS Elizabeth Harriet Bridgend 11a 986a

Births Dec 1910
EDWARDS David H Bridgend 11a 901

Carole

Carole Report 22 Apr 2014 19:32

Hello patchem. I have now got a copy of my mum's marriage certificate and her father was Thomas Edwards 1882-19?? born Bridgend. (He died before mum was married) and her mum is therefore Harriet Nicholas 1883-19?? born Bridgend. Thomas's father was Jenkin Thomas Edwards but not sure who he married.
It seems that there are 3 members on here with Harriet's details but I don't think they are members any more so I can't find out anything. :-( I'm not sure where to go from here and I added a new post on the community hoping that someone may have some suggestions.
Thank you for your help, I am humbled by the time you have all spent on this..

Carole

Carole Report 22 Apr 2014 19:37

Have just read your info on Thomas Edwards with the address and everything. Fantastic!! :-)