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I'm trying to find the birth of Harold's mother, May Rosina Taylor, born 1897. Just wondered if Harold's son/daughter may be able to help. Harold's wife's maiden name was Williams.

Any help will be much appreciate.

Ruth Lapish

Do you have Harold's birth cert for both parents names ?

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Marriages Mar 1918
Saunders Albert E Taylor W.Ham 4a 741
Taylor May M Saunders W.Ham 4a 741


Births Dec 1918
Saunders Harold P Taylor W.Ham 4a 530

Her fathers name should be on the marriage cert

This looks a possible


Name: May Taylor
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: West Ham
Civil Parish: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 242 Monega Road, Manor Park E
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: North East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 357
Piece: 9571
Household Members:
Name Age
James Juchan 33
Catherine Juchan 31
Cyril James Juchan 6
Leslie Louis Juchan 4
Catherine Rose Elizabeth Juchan 6/12
John Thomas Taylor 59 wife's father born cranbrook Kent occ shipping clerk
May Taylor 16

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 9571; Schedule Number: 357.

So are you looking for Harold's children, if any?

Thanks Shirley and Jax for your immediate help. Didn't expect replies so quick. I am trying to solve the mystery for my husband Douglas Saunders of why we cannot find a birth cert. for his mother.

I have May's marriage cert. to Albert Edward Saunders, 23/3/1918, which gives her father as Cornelius Taylor, an engineer, also death cert of May Rosina, 29th June 1982. This was certified by Harold Percy Saunders, May's eldest son.
who was reg. Dec 1918. I do know that Harold had a son, Ian R. born approx. 1955/6. I did speak to Ian in 2002 when his father died and asked him if he would share any info. he might find from his father's papers. But this never materialised.
Ian did live in Essex at that time and was married to Janet.

Many thanks for your help. I've been trying since 2000 to find May's birth certificate. ONS cannot find her and 1901 and 1911 Census doesn't show her.

Ruth Saunders (Lapish

I see that marriage reg says her name was May M does it say Rosina on the cert?

Trouble with marriage certs you could tell lies

My gt grandmother made up a fathers name

Grandmother said her middle names were Gertrude Esmerelda ....when it was infact just Mary

Grandfather took 3 years off his age

How about witness's could they be from her side of the family?

she isnt May Rosina on the marriage cert she is May M . what did the M stand for ??

So her death cert gives a birth date

First name(s) MAY ROSINA
Last name SAUNDERS
Gender Female
Birth day 13
Birth month 10
Birth year 1897
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1982
District BRENTWOOD
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 9
Page 1568
Entry number -
DOR -
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials

As I said my grandfather took 3 years off when he married so his age on his death cert is out by 3 years as no one knew it was wrong

Shirley, I have May Rosina Taylor definitely on Marriage Cert. with father's name as Cornelius Taylor, engineer.

Jax, May did tell me personally that there was 9 yrs difference between her and her husband, Albert Edward, as Albert got a divorce from an Annie Charles in 1915. May was 21 years and Albert was 30 years on Marriage cert 23/3/1918.

You must admit it's rather an unusual name to give - Cornelius Taylor, as her father.

Also May's first daughter, was given the names Gladys May Rosina. Born 1920.

I've even tried to trace the witnesses at May and Albert's wedding to see if that could give me some clues. They were J H Taplin and M. Taplin. But I suppose they could have been pulled off the street to act as witnesses.

Thanks for your time and interest, much appreciated.
Ruth

I am not doubting what you have been told.....but as I said my grandfather took 3 years off his age and as far as we were aware my grandmother didn't know any different.
Also there are no May Rosina's born at that time.....so did she just add the middle name because she liked it...or maybe she thought that was her name? as I said my grandmother added two completly different names on her marriage cert.....not that she was trying to hide anything, she just thought they were her names until she applied for a birth cert many years later to obtain a passport

On your prior searches for her on the ancestry message boards you have put that you believe she was brought up by an aunt and uncle.

Do you know who these people were?

Or is this the relevant family:

'Trying to find details of a Henry George Taylor, born Bow, approx. 1870, who had an older brother Cornelius, born 1865.

Henry was living with an Annie at 7 Pearcroft Road, Leytonstone (then Essex) in 1918. If anyone could help me with either Henry or Cornelius' details, I would be grateful.'

Did those prior searches find her in 1901 or 1911, and are you convinced Cornelius and Henry are correct?

With the name 'Cornelius' and 'engineer', I thought of a birth overseas, or anywhere in the country, when you seem convinced she was born locally.

As has been stated above, any details can be wrong, or names added, or incorrectly remembered, including her date and year of birth and father's names.

What does your husband know of his grandfather Cornelius - where and when did he die?

So was it Henry and Annie that May lived with?

Could this be cornelius ?

Births Mar 1864
TAYLOR Cornelius William W Ham 4a 40

He has a brother Henry !
1871 census
Name: Cornelius W Taylor
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Cornelius Taylor
Mother's name: Kate Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Little Wilbraham
Town: Little Wilbraham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 1582
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9
Address Church street
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius Taylor 36 occ miller employing 1 man born Little Wilbraham Cambs
Kate Taylor 32
Alice Taylor 13
Emma Taylor 11
Cornelius W Taylor 7
Henry G Taylor 2

Still in Cambridgshire in 1881

1881 England Census about Cornelius W. Taylor
Name: Cornelius W. Taylor
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Cornelius Taylor
Mother: Catherine S. Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Plastow, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Lt Wilbraham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address: Main Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Assistant Miller (Corn)
Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1661
Folio: 120
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius Taylor 46
Catherine S. Taylor 42
Alice Taylor 23
Cornelius W. Taylor 17
Henry G. Taylor 12
Frederick C. Taylor 6
Alfred H. Taylor 4
Thomas W. Taylor 2
Elizabeth Taylor 87 mother !

Parents in 1901 with some family still at home

1901 England Census about Cornelius Taylor
Name: Cornelius Taylor
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Kate Taylor
Birth Place: Little Wilbraham, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Wilbraham
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Wilbraham St John the Evangelist
Town: Little Wilbraham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address: church street

Occupation:general grocer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1526
Folio: 146
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius Taylor 66
Kate Taylor 62
Alice Taylor 43
Alfred H Taylor 24
Thomas W Taylor 22

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1901 census
Name: Henry G Taylor
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Annie Taylor
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Kennington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 80 church street

Occupation:navvy

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 413
Folio: 81
Page Number: 45
Household schedule number: 362
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry G Taylor 33
Annie Taylor 33
Rose C Taylor 2
Henry G Taylor 1
Charles R Norton 16 son
Annie R Norton 11 daughter.