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John Report 21 May 2014 22:08

Appreciate any help please in finding any relatives of John Harold Horwood in Australia. John was killed in Holland 12th June 1943 , son of Alice Horwood, stepson to James Fury.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 22:33

For our information, from a tree on Ancestry:


John Harold Horwood
Birth 8 October, 1918 in Cairns, Queensland, Australia
Death 12 June, 1943 in Sluipwijk, Reeuwijk, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands


Birth
1918 8 Oct
Cairns, Queensland, Australia

Death
1943 12 Jun Age: 24
Sluipwijk, Reeuwijk, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
Flt Sgt Horwood was on board a Lancaster Bomber which never returned from a mission to bomb Dusseldorf, Germany during WW2. He is buried in a communal grave along with the rest of the crew. (Google "W4960" for further info)





Alice Horwood
Birth 1894 in England (But it also says her parents were John Horwood and Charlotte Smith, in which case she was born in Queensland:

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Alice Horwood
Name: Alice Horwood
Birth Date: 1 Aug 1894
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 12198
Registration Number: 011137

Death 4 August, 1950 in Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Age: 56
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Interred at Townsville Cemetary with husband

Marriage to James Fury
Townsville, Queensland, Australia

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 22:42


Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about John Harold Horwood
Name: John Harold Horwood
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1943
State: Queensland
District: Herbert
Subdistrict: Townsville
85 Livingstone Street
Occupation: motor mechanic.

There are quite a few Horwoods at various addresses in Townsville, on the image for that ER. Don't know if related or not.

George, Charlotte Anne, and Lillian Harriet - 46 Philp St.
Clarice Olive Muriel - 54 Armstrong St.
Elizabeth Rebecca - cr Church & Livingstone St
Jack, and Isabella Maud - 29 Philp St.
Sarah Jane Edna May, and William Frederick - 16 Summerfield St
Seth , and Winifred Cornelia - 59 Philp St
Seth jr - 56 Bayswater Terr.

John

John Report 21 May 2014 22:47

Thank you ArgyllGran for finding more information on John Horwood, my father was one of the crew killed on the same Lancaster. So far found 4 families of the crew so would much like to find them all. By the way the web site W4960 was done for me by a very kind Dutchman. I will look on Ancestry in the trees. Like you waiting for the 2021 census to come out, just hope I am still around. Many,thanks once again , you have given me information I didn't know

John

John Report 21 May 2014 22:51

Looks like the Elizabeth Rebecca of Livingstone Street could be a relative.

John

John Report 21 May 2014 22:58

The crews remains were reburied in Jonkerbos War Cemetery Nijmegen in 1953 . Went out there 2 weeks ago and found a note on the grave of Jack Heath next to my Dads and after returning to England posted on here and overjoyed with help that his family contacted me last weekend, so hopefully I will get the same results,from John Horwoods family. If you look on w4960 you will see a face to his name

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 23:02

Elizabeth Rebecca was her sister:

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Name: Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Birth Date: 9 Nov 1888
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 6979
Registration Number: 010962

Other siblings:


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Mary Horwood
Name: Mary Horwood
Birth Date: 26 May 1886
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 6979
Registration Number: 009554


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Betsy Ann Horwood
Name: Betsy Ann Horwood
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1891
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 12198
Registration Number: 011482



Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Fanny Horwood
Name: Fanny Horwood
Birth Date: 21 Dec 1892
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 12199
Registration Number: 011088



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 23:06

Elizabeth Rebecca never married:


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Name: Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Death Date: 11 Mar 1961
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: John
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Registration Year: 1961
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 001337
Page Number: 1342

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 23:07

Fanny married, so maybe there will be some living relatives descended form her:


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Fanny Horwood
Name: Fanny Horwood
Spouse Name: Thomas Gleeson
Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1928
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1928
Registration Number: 002207
Page Number: 1884

[EDIT: Well, it might not be her, after all.
Here's the death of a son of a Fanny Horwood, but with a different father:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about George Cole
Name: George Cole
Death Date: 5 Mar 1930
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: George Reginald Cole
Mother's name: Fanny Horwood
Registration Year: 1930
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: B010422

John

John Report 21 May 2014 23:31

Hello ArgyllGran. Many thanks for the additional info. I have just been on Ancestry and sent a message to someone on the Horwwod tree but I have a funny feeling that John was an only child so maybe too remove from the family for anyone to be interested in my information. Just have to wait and see.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 May 2014 13:49

Alice would have no children with James Fury, as she was 56 when they married.

As John's birth was illegitimate, it is likely (though one can never be sure!) that he was an only child.

John

John Report 23 May 2014 21:55

Thanks for looking up Johns birth, I did wonder if he was illegitimate. I don't suppose he had siblings seeing the age his mother married. Appreciate your help ArgyllGran

John

John Report 23 May 2014 22:06

Looking through all the info you sent Alice Fury nee Horwood died age 56 but in 1943 her and James Fury were stated on Johns Horwoods records so they must have got married before 1943.

John

John Report 23 May 2014 22:08

Looking through all the info you sent Alice Fury nee Horwood died age 56 but in 1943 her and James Fury were stated on Johns Horwoods records so they must have got married before 1943.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2014 16:10

Sorry, John - senior moment!
She was 56 when she died, not when she married.


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Alice Fury
Name: Alice Fury
Death Date: 4 Aug 1950
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Registration Year: 1950
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 004045

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2014 16:13

???


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about James Fury
Name: James Fury
Spouse Name: Alice Harwood
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1922
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1922
Registration Number: 002855
Page Number: 1285

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 May 2014 16:27

He was described as "son and brother" here (but could it be stepbrother?):

ROLL OF HONOUR
HORWOOD.— Fondest memories of our dear son and brother. Flt./Sgt. John Harold Horwood, also the six members of his crew, who lost their lives In Holland, returning from operations on Dusseldorf, 12th June. 1943
Resting where no shadows fell.
You gave for us— your life—your all.
(Inserted by Mr. and Mrs. I. Fury and Betty).

Townsville Daily Bulletin (Qld. : 1885 - 1954) Wednesday 12 June 1946

From Trove http://trove.nla.gov.au/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2014 16:35

The birth records for Australia on Ancestry don't show births later than 1922, unfortunately.

You probably need someone in the Townsville area (or wherever the records are kept) to have a look at more recent records for you.

Perhaps if you edited the title of this thread to include the word Australia, it might attract an Australian member to read it.

John

John Report 24 May 2014 23:00

Hi ArgyllGran, tell me about senior moments!!!!!!! You are not on your,own. Well it looks like on the Roll of Honour it states a Betty, she could be a stepsister Will look on Ancestry and see what comes up, interesting.

John

John Report 25 May 2014 00:20

Hi ArgyllGran. I have found a marriage for Betty Fury in Townsville only daughter to Mr & Mrs J Fury, Cook Street Townsville 15th Oct 1948 to a Henry Jones. So Betty was the half sister of John. Will try and find a death for Alice Fury in any Townsville newspapers to see if it states an address as Cook Street