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When did his parents die?

Do you know what his second forename is?

There are too many Malcolm C Paynes of similar age to be able to pinpoint your relation.........so every scrap of info will help

To give you some idea........there are 10 marriages for the name from 1965 to 1995

It would cost £9.25 for each cert to find out if the person marrying was your relation

i imagine it to be charles (his son is stephen precy charles payne)

i have tried forces reunited but it wasnt much use

(im just lookin up death records for his parents)

JOHN P C PAYNE
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Collections from
Great Britain
Country
England
County
Sussex
Year
1952
Birth Year
1914
Age
38
Event Quarter
1
District:HORSHAM


Mother

MARJORIE CLEGG
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
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Great Britain
Country
England
County
Lancashire
Year
1987
Birth Year
1913
Event Quarter
3
District
HYNDBURN & ROSSENDALE


these are the only 2 death records that match their birth year

His mother would not die as CLEGG

As the marriage to Payne was in Wrexham, one assumes this is his mother's birth

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Clegg Marjorie Griffiths Wrexham 11b 500

She was young when she was widowed............did she re-marry?

yes thats brill i have her down on my tree as her mothers maiden name was a griffiths

This matches her birth..........assuming there was no re-marriage

First name(s) MARJORIE
Last name PAYNE
Gender Female
Birth day 14
Birth month 7
Birth year 1913
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 2003
District WREKIN
District number 7161B
County Shropshire
Country England
Volume -
Page -
Entry number 262
DOR 303
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

im not sure if she re married but as far as im aware Malcolm was an only child.....
but my family have fobbed me with nonsense so it could be true or not :/

IF that was the right person's death, and IF Malcolm was an only child, the chances are that he registered the death..................providing he was in contact with his mother

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)

PAYNE Bertram Oliver Pontypridd 11a 770
Stapleton Sarah Ann Pontypridd 11a 770

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
BERTRAM OLIVER PAYNE HEAD MARRIED Male 26 1885 THORNBURY GLOS COAL MINER HEWER Image Transcription
SARAH ANN PAYNE WIFE MARRIED Female 27 1884 ABERAMAN GLAM - Image Transcription
GEORGE OLIVER PAYNE SON - Male 4 1907 FERNDALE GLAM - Image Transcription
EDWARD CLIFFORD PAYNE SON - Male 2 1909 BLAENLLECHAU GLAM - Image Transcription
FRANCES ELLEN MAY PAYNE DAUGHTER - Female 0 1911 FERNDALE GLAM -


Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Payne John P C Stapleton Pontypridd 11a 1372

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
PAYNE Bertram S L Stapleton Pontypridd 11a 1076

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
Payne Winifred L Stapleton Pontypridd 11a 1194

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Payne Florence E Stapleton Pontypridd 11a 1494

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
Payne Margaret A Stapleton Pontypridd 11a 1388

Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
Payne Mildred E Stapleton Pontypridd 11a 1175

First name(s) BERTRAM STANLEY L
Last name PAYNE
Gender Male
Birth day 9
Birth month 9
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1975
District WINDSOR & MAIDENHEAD
District number -
County Berkshire
Country England
Volume 19
Page 0737

First name(s) BERTRAM O
Last name PAYNE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1887
Age 66
Death quarter 1
Death year 1953
District SURREY SOUTH EASTERN
District number -
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 5G
Page 1130

thank you so much i recognise the name Stapleton i think it was malcolms grandmothers MMN

Thanks for your help, i have now managed to get down to 3 of Malcolms cousins, altho iv hit a brick wall again lol

His fathers full name was John Percy Charles Payne according to 1938 ERs for Surrey - where Malcolm C was born:

John Percy Charles Payne
Year:1938
Country:England
County:Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency:Reigate
Place of Abode:2 Elward Cottages, Middle Street

Reference Number:CC802/55/7

Living with Marjorie.

This is Malcolm I think, address given on image is 79 Vernon St Rhosdru - he occupation states RAF


Malcolm Payne
Birth Date:22 Jan 1939
Age:20
Port of Departure:New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date:5 Oct 1959
Port of Arrival:Plymouth, England
Ship Name:Liberte
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Shipping line:French Line
Official Number:5270/30

He is travelling alone, and states he is married.

And his passage out, travelling with a lot of other RAF men:

Malcolm Payne
Gender:Male
Departure Date:30 Apr 1959
Port of Departure:Southampton, England
Destination Port:New York, USA
Ship Name:Queen Mary
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Shipping line:Cunard Steam Ship Company, Limited
Master:Johnw Lasuie

That's amazing thank you