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brummie46

brummie46 Report 28 May 2016 09:11

I'm looking for descendants of Edith 1886 John 1890 Maud 1892 Florrie1898 Violet 1900 (I have violets details) Harold 1901 and Frank 1902. Sidney 1894 have info on him for he is my grandfather. Smethwick.KN.Birmingham.
I have been on this site and the ones that have same names within trees have sent messages but membership probably lapsed for no opening.
I would like to try and find these peoples (grandchildren) for they would be my 2nd cousins.
any info would be greatly appreciated.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 May 2016 09:18

For info........

John Sadler in the 1901 England Census
Name: John Sadler
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Jane Sadler
Birth Place: Smethwick, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Smethwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne

Household Members:


John Sadler 39
Jane Sadler 38
Edith Sadler 15
John Sadler 11
Maud Sadler 9
Sidney Sadler 7
Florrie Sadler 3
Violet Sadler 1

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 May 2016 09:21

John Sadler in the 1911 England Census
Name: John Sadler
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Smethwick
Civil Parish: Smethwick
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: 222 Montague Road, Smethwick
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 25
Estimated Marriage Year: 1886
Occupation: Worker Glass Beveller
Registration district: Kings Norton

Household Members:

John Sadler 49
Jane Sadler 47
Edith Sadler 23
Maud Sadler 19
Florance Sadler 13
Voilet Sadler 11
John Sadler 20
Sidney Sadler 17
Horlad Sadler 10
Frank Sadler 9

12 children born.....9 living, 3 had died.

brummie46

brummie46 Report 28 May 2016 09:30

thank you PricklyHolly for the info you have sent through I had already obtained this it was the decendants from these people I am searching for. Possibly could be some children from them stil alive but more likely their grandchildren.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 09:37

Maud's Baptism???

Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Maud Jane Sadler
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1892
Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1892
Baptism Place: Ladywood, St Margaret, Warwickshire, England
Father: John Sadler - Glass Cutter
Mother: Jane Sadler
Reference Number: DRO 84/1
Archive Roll: M174

Added - married 'late'?
Name: Maud Sadler
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration district: Smethwick
Inferred County: West Midlands
Spouse: Eric Whiles
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 1168

May be not - Ancestry links with
Maud Sadler
Mother's Maiden Surname: Stokes
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1926
Registration district: Birmingham S.
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 413

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 09:55

This seems more promising - 1939 Register

Gwynne Household (3 People) 24 Hamilton Road , Smethwick C.B., Staffordshire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Maud Gwynne 28 Mar 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 183 2
Herbert Gwynne 29 Oct 1890 Male Brass & Copper Tube Drawer Heavy Worker Married 183 1
Nellie Davies (Gwynne) 11 Oct 1918 Female Drapper Of Nuts (Warehouse Single 183 3
(one further closed entry)

Nellie's birth - note mmn Sadler
Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
Gwynne Nellie Sadler Kings N. 6d 155

Parent's marriage
Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
Gwynne Herbert Sadler Kings N. 6d 172
Sadler Maud Gwynne Kings N. 6d 172

Furrther children born Kings Norton
Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Gwynne Florence M Sadler Kings N. 6d 367

Plus one in 1923

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 10:02

Nellie's marriage

Marriages Jun 1943 (>99%)
Davies William W B Gwynne Smethwick 6b 1986
Gwynne Nellie Davies Smethwick 6b 1986

Although freebmd shows Davies/Gwynne births, they are more likely to be the children of a couple who married in Merthyr Tydfil

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 May 2016 10:04

For Edith's birth date.........

Edith Sadler in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Edith Sadler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1885
Baptism Date: 22 Nov 1885
Baptism Place: St. George, Walsall, Stafford, England
Father: John Sadler
Mother: Jane

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 May 2016 10:15

??

Marriages Jun 1914 (>99%)
Hannibal Nellie M Sadler Kings N. 6d 176
Sadler John Hannibal Kings N. 6d 176

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 10:23

There's a possibility that the 1923 son of Nellie (Sadler) Gwynne married in 1944, West Brom. Both his birth & marriage are on Freebmd.
2 children born as per Freebmd - 1947 & 1948

There is also a listing for Herbert on the ER to 2016 in Birmingham. Assuming he is still living, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to try and make contact due to his age.
However, its your choice but do bear in mind that he'd be c 93!!
Address on http://www.searchelectoralroll.co.uk/Electoral_Roll_Search.asp

Added - the property where the 1948 son lived was listed on the ER in 2002 and last sold in 2013.

brummie46

brummie46 Report 28 May 2016 10:33

thanks once again Detective, no I certainly wouldn't make contact with someone of that age but will research further on his children to which I have found their name on Freebmd so I will try and find them. thank you once again.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 10:47

Sending names of the 1948 son's children and last known address. You might be able to find the children on FB, or the son in the phone book.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 May 2016 10:52

???


Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
Jenkins Ivy Sadler Kings N. 6d 228
Sadler Frank Jenkins Kings N. 6d 228


Marriages Sep 1923 (>99%)
Hackett Carolyne A Sadler Kings N. 6d 392
Sadler Frank Hackett King's N. 6d 392


??
Frank Sadler in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Frank Sadler
Birth Date: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Dec 1962
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 509


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 10:56

Sending current (to 2016) address of the 1947 child - grandaughter of Nellie Sadler/Gwynne

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 11:02

Just to round off Nellie Sadler/Gwynne's children

FLORENCE M
Last name GWYNNE
Gender Female
Birth year 1920
Age 0
Death quarter 2
Death year 1920
District KINGS NORTON
County Worcestershire
Volume 6D
Page 179

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 May 2016 11:22

????

For Florence (Florrie) M Sadler 1897

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Nightingale Benjamin Sadler King's N. 6d 262
Sadler Florence M Nightingale King's N. 6d 262

Possibly one son 1923 West Brom + another Nightingale/Sadler birth 1928 Chesterton.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 29 May 2016 18:48

Violet

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1356671

and more about Violet

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1357294

brummie46

brummie46 Report 29 May 2016 20:56

Thank you JoonieCloonie, but had previously mentioned that I had the information on violet already.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 29 May 2016 21:20

It was just in case ... people like to try to help and it is best for all to know what has been found.