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I need some help finding the birth info fo my 2x G grand father, James Anderson. Born in Great Yarmouth Norfolk in 1820 and was a private in the 46th foot, number 1401. He died in the great storm in 1854 in the crimea.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
David Anderson

Welcome to the boards David.

Since civil registration only started in 1837 there won't be a birth certificate so the best you can hope for is a baptism.

Kath. x

Hello David, which of his children was your direct ancestor?

Who was James' wife and where/when did they marry? You'll probably have more chance of finding his father's name from a marriage certificate and then working back from that.

Hmm, so did he return to the Army?

Army Deserters 1828-1840
First name(s) James
Last name ANDERSON
Alias -
Age years 19
Age months -
Birth year 1820
Birth parish -
Birth town Gt. Yarmouth
Birth county Norfolk
Birth country England
Corps 46th Foot
Year 1839
Day 24
Month May
Summary 46th Foot; 19; Gt. Yarmouth; Norf.; Corn Portr; 24 May 1839

I'll let David know how to find his replies.. :-)

this is him in 1851

Name: James Anderson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Scarborough
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Scarborough

the image shows him as an unmarred private in the 46th regiment

so he had a short time to marry and have a child/ren

possibly at age 32 he was married already and the census entry was just sloppy recording

Possible Baptism:


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about James Annerson

Name:James Annerson
Gender:Male
Christening Date:17 Feb 1820
Christening Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Father's Name:Samuel Annerson
Mother's name:Elizabeth

According to a tree on Ancestry, he married Amelia Norton (no source and I cannot find a marriage); their first child was a Margaret, b1850, Isle of Man. One other child, Thomas James, b1854, Dublin. Is this your family, David?

Amelia and Margaret in 1851:

1851 England Census
Amelia Anderson, Soldier's wife

Age:27
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1824
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Female
Where born:Rauwin, Cheshire, England (Runcorn)
Civil Parish:Scarborough
Ecclesiastical parish:St Thomas
Town:Scarborough

James Hewett 60
Ellen Hewett 59
William Hewett 20
James Hewett 17
Elizabeth Hawkswell 21
Amelia Anderson 27
Margaret Jane Anderson 1, b IOM

Possibly James & Amelia married in the IOM but bmd records only started there in 1884.

Margaret's baptism:

Name: Margaret Jane Anderson
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 27 Mar 1850
Event Place: St Mary's, Castletown, Isle of Man
Gender: Female
Father's Name: James Anderson
Mother's Name: Amelia
Image Number: 16

James and Amelia's marriage:

Name: James Anderson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Apr 1849
Event Place: Malew, Isle of Man
Residence Place: Castletown Barracks
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Samuel Anderson
Spouse's Name: Amelia Horton
Spouse's Residence Place: Quay Castletown
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name: Philip Horton

Edit:
Both of above from familysearch

Was wondering where the references came from, 1401, and Death info...

Chris :)


Captain Campbell, on his way back to the camp of the 46th...

http://www.victorianweb.org/history/crimea/storm.html

Chris, the tree on Ancestry has his death a 1854, Scarborough but no source.

I have received a message from David who is under the misapprehension that I am the person who has helped him and that I work for GR. I hope I have put him straight. :-D


I have advised him to respond on here as you have all been so kind in trying to help him.

David.....if you make it back here, you need to answer the questions you have been asked because it will help folk to continue helping you. Good luck. Cx

I too have received PMs from David, one confirming that we have the correct family and the other: "This is interesting. I have found this too and wondering if it is him"

Not sure what piece of info you are referring to David, but if that is the correct family, then it looks as if the James Anderson who married in the IOM is the same James baptised as Annerson. freereg also has the baptism and gives Samuel's occupation as sailor.

Hi Potty,

David has been on to me again and I have, once again, advised him on how to find his replies.......hope he makes it back here. :-)

I hope he does too ... I have a PM as well:


Yes this is him. He married in 1849 in the I.O.M and went on to lose his life in the great storm in 1854 in the Crimea.
Still looking for confirmation of his birth however.



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so now ... can you please tell us how you know that this man died in Crimea?

I got this info from the muster rolls for the 46th at Kew. James lost his life in the great storm in 1854 in the Crimea.

(in answer to my question posted above, from PM also)

Chris :)

James is recorded in the 46th foot muster rolls.

hello there David!

have you ever managed to find James in the 1841 census?

he probably would not be with his parents at that point of course

do you know from his military records or the muster rolls -- when did he join the military?


did you already have James's marriage record showing his father as Samuel Anderson?

that info was posted above for you ...


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