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Hello,
I am looking for any information regarding the following two people and what, if anything, they did during WW1. None of my living relatives know anything, I know one of them possibly served in the royal artillery.
Any help would be appreciated:
Charles W Adkin
b. 1877, Amwell, Middlesex
M. Sarah Cooper 1901 Hastings
1911 census carriage driver 18 North road cottages N highgate
Unknown year of death
John Burdett
b.1887 (c) London
M. Maria Sinfield 1907 Edmonton
Believe he served in the Royal Artillery.
Unknown year of death.
thanks.
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As you may know, about 70% of WW1 service records were destroyed during WW2 bombing. Although medal rolls survived, they don't give ages, place of birth or residence.
If correct, 1911 census for Charles W Adkin gives his middle name as Walter.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Charles Walter Adkin Head Married Male Carriage Driver 34 1877 Middlesex Hornsey
Sarah Adkin Wife Married Female - 35 1876 Coltishall Norfolk
Charles Walter Adkin Son - Male - 9 1902 Hastings Sussex
Percy William Adkin Son - Male - 7 1904 Collishall Norfolk
Albert Leslie Adkin Son - Male - 5 1906 Norwick Norfolk
William Ernest Adkin Son - Male - 3 1908 Norfolk Norwick
Herbert Stanley Adkin Son - Male - 0 1911 Tottenham Middlesex
UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
Charles Walter Adkin
Military Year: 1914-1915
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: 1914-15 Star
Regiment or Corps: Durham Light Infantry
Regimental Number: 6932
Previous Units: A. Vet. Corps.
Different record for the same man
Charles W Adkin
Regiment or Corps: Army Veterinary Corps, Durh LI
Regimental Number: 6932,44624
First entered the field of war (France) 29 Apr 1915
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Alternatively,
C W Adkin
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Sapper
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Engineers
Regimental Number: 492
Previous Units: Royal Engineers (T.F.) 492 Spr.
Same man
C W Adkin
Military Year: 1914-1915
Rank: Lance Corporal
Medal Awarded: 1914-15 Star
Regiment or Corps: Royal Engineers
Regimental Number: 492
Sub Unit: Cornwall R.E. (T)
Would this be him in the ER?
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Charles W Adkin
Year: 1947
County or Borough: Hornsey
Ward or Division/Constituency: Highgate
Street address: 97 S3
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0739
With Sarah at 97 Gaskell Road
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1939 Register for the Adkin family
Adkins Household (6 People) 97 Gaskell Road , Hornsey M.B., Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Charles W Adkins 19 Jul 1877 Male Chauffeur Married 136 1
Sarah Adkins 23 Aug 1877 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 136 2
Cyril R Adkins 12 Nov 1914 Male Gardener Single 136 3
John F Adkins 12 Oct 1913 Male Plumber Married 136 4
Herbert S Adkin 14 Sep 1910 Male Motor Driver Married 136 5
Florence Adkins 24 May 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 136 6
Closed record
Notes for Cyril indicates he was in the Auxilary Fire Service, John was in the Demolition and Rescue Squad and Herbert was also in the Aux Fire Service.
Have you considered this for his death? Although 'out of area', he could have died in a hospital.
Charles W Adkin
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Mar 1952
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 498
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John Burdett
London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
John Burdett (Carman)
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Age: 21
Spouse: Maria Sinfield
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Mar 1907
Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham
Borough: Haringey
Father Name: Thomas Burdett (Factory Operative)
Spouse Father: Thomas Sinfield
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses J Burdett & Annie Burdett
Both gave their address as Stanley Grove, Love Lane.
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As he married in Tottenham, might he have been born in the area?
John Burdett
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Edmonton
inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 387
Baptism
John Burdett
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Jul 1887
Father's name: Thomas Burdett (Sweep)
Mother's name: Mary Burdett
Parish or Poor Law Union: Upper Edmonton St James
Borough: Enfield
Register Type: Parish Registers
Image says born 27 Apr 1887.
Address 1 New Buildings, Northumberland Ave.
He seems to have survived WW1 and was alive on 29 Sep 1939
Burdett Household (4 People) The Brightside Eversley Road , Billericay U.D., Essex, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Maria Burdett 24 Oct 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 207 2
John Burdett 27 Apr 1887 Male Sanitory Refuse Heavy Worker Married 207 1
Thomas Burdett 27 Mar 1919 Male Locomotive Driver (Heavy Wo Single 207 3
Edward Burdett 19 Apr 1922 Male Sanitory Refuse Heavy Worke Single 207 4
Closed Record
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Medal Rolls - there are quite a few options, but excluding ones from Scotland..
John Burdett
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Gunner
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Garrison Artillery
Regimental Number: 314533
Sub Unit: South Midland (Warwickshire) Heavy Battery. [RGA - (TF)]
Previous Units: R.G.A. (T.F) 314533 Gnr
John Burdett
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: King's Royal Rifle Corps
Regimental Number: 4381
Previous Units: 2nd Bn. K.R. Rif. C 4381 Pte.
John Burdett
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Labour Corps
Regimental Number: 282610
Previous Units: 52381 A/Bdr. R.G.A.
John Burdett
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Gloucestershire Regiment
Regimental Number: 42374
Previous Units: 1/4th. Roy. Berks. Rgt. 42734, Pte., 1/5th. Glouc. R. 42374., 1/6th. Glouc. R. 42374
John Burdett
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Defence Corps
Regimental Number: 91212
Previous Units: 10 R. War. R. Pte. 10642
John Burdett
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Army Service Corps
Regimental Number: EMT/43321
Previous Units: 3/4 S. Lancs Regt. 3856 Private.
John Burdett
Military Year: 1914-1915
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: 1914-15 Star
Regiment or Corps: Labour Corps
Regimental Number: 282610
Previous Units: 12 Heavy Bty R.G.A. 52381 A/Bdr
If John was the one who served in the Royal Artillery, you might want to consider the men were in the RGA - Royal Garrison Artillery
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Regarding his death - Its NOT the one in 1951 as his Executor was his wife Celia, not Maria.
John Burdett
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Mar 1951
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 1102
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You could consider this
John Burdett
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Dec 1952
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 762
Maria's death
Maria Burdett
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Dec 1961
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Brentwood
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 444
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Since they seem to be badly transcribed or missing on 1911, looking for Burdett/Sinfield births
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BURDETT, MARY ANN ELIZABETH SINFIELD
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 589
BURDETT, MINNIE HARRIET SINFIELD
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 602
BURDETT, VIOLET MAY SINFIELD
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 1107
BURDETT, JOHN SINFIELD
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 1065
(above from the free search on GRO)
Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
Burdett Thomas Sinfield Edmonton 3a 746
Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Burdett Edward Sinfield Edmonton 3a 1060
Births Jun 1929 (>99%)
Burdett xxxxxxxx Sinfield Edmonton 3a 950
[ forename removed as he may stil be living - probably the closed record shown on the 1939 Register)
(last 3 from FreeBMD)
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This is probably the Burdett family in 1911, but why has Maria changed her name to Elizabeth?
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
19 Love Lane Tottenham, Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Burdett Head Married Male Coachman Domestic 23 1888 Tottenham Mdx
Elirabeth Burdett Wife Married Female - 23 1888 Tottenham Mdx
Minnie Herriet Burdett Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Tottenham Mdx
married 4 years, 2 children born, one died - that would be Mary Ann Elizabeth Burdett
Name: Age at Death
BURDETT, MARY ANN ELIZABETH 4 (weeks or days?)
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 248
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