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Problemmatic lookup please (if possible)

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Dennis

Dennis Report 26 Jan 2010 12:59

I don't have much to go on for this lookup so I apologise in advance. I'm trying to trace a William Ernest Knights who married in 1925 and died c.1964 in Lincolnshire

Marriages Dec 1925
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Greatrick Dorothy Knights Lincoln 7a 1208
Knights William E Greatrick Lincoln 7a 1208

His father was called Benjamin Knights.

As I said this is all I currently have which isn't much as I do not even have when he was born. Could have been living in Lincolnshire in 1911

One contact I've tried to make on this site who has daughter of William and Dorothy above also has a Benjamin listed as b1862 in Blaxhall, Suffolk and a William b1900 Hoxne, Suffolk so this may be a point where to start.

Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Dennis

Looking at general search on 1911 this could be the entry
HOUSEHOLD KNIGHTS WILLIAM ERNEST M 1901 10 Plomesgate Suffolk

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 26 Jan 2010 13:08

Dennis, you have probably already looked on freebmd for possible births ... there are a few so its very difficult to know you have the right one. Ordering the marriage cert from the GRO would hopefully confirm father's name and age in 1925 which would give you a bit more to go on.

This could be him in 1911, BUT, you will need the marriage cert really to confirm, you should start with what you know and work back, as otherwise its all guesswork really!

Address: Marlesford Road Hacheston Wickham Market

KNIGHTS, Benjamin Head Married M 48 1863 Plate Layer Suffolk Blaxhall VIEW
KNIGHTS, Sarah Ann Wife Married
20 years F 44 1867 Suffolk Benhall VIEW
KNIGHTS, James William Son Single M 17 1894 Stockman On Farm Suffolk Marlesford VIEW
KNIGHTS, Ida May Daughter F 14 1897 Suffolk Marlesford VIEW
KNIGHTS, Thomas Ewert Son M 12 1899 At School Suffolk Marlesford VIEW
KNIGHTS, William Ernest Son M 10 1901 Suffolk Hacheston VIEW
KNIGHTS, Gertrude Ellen Daughter F 7 1904 Suffolk Hacheston VIEW
KNIGHTS, Edith Maude Daughter F 5 1906 Suffolk Hacheston VIEW
KNIGHTS, Alice Louisa Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Suffolk Hacheston

Julie

Julie Report 26 Jan 2010 13:09

The best place to start would be to buy the marriage cert

I personally wouldn't rely on someone else's tree to be correct

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 26 Jan 2010 13:11

This could be the death you refer to, but a bit later than you thought. There are other William E and William Ernest Knights deaths on Ancestry but none in Lincolnshire.

Name: William Ernest Knights
Birth Date: 1 Jul 1900
Death Registration Month/Year: 1970
Registration district: Scunthorpe
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 846

The death cert may help you confirm it as the informant could be a relative you know of.

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 26 Jan 2010 13:13

Same family as on the 1911 in 1901, BUT, without the marriage cert to confirm age and father's name you don't know if its the right one.

Name: William Ernest Knights
Age: 9 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hacheston, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Hacheston
Ecclesiastical parish: Hacheston and Parham
Town: Hacheston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Plomesgate
Sub-registration district: Orford
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Knights 39
Sarah Ann Knights 34
Robert James Knights 9
James William Knights 7
Ida May Knights 4
Thomas Ewert Knights 2
William Ernest Knights 9 months

Dennis

Dennis Report 26 Jan 2010 13:38

Hi Helen and Julie

Many thanks for what you have uncovered - it will as you say probably be best to get the marriage cert to confirm. Searchng once 1911 is established is a lot easier. If the details do turn out to be correct then I have found marriage of Benjamin and Sarah Ann so may I ask for a 1891 lookup for matching ages and places of birth of these two and then I'll leave it until confirmation of Benjamin is established. Thanks again for your help. Best wishes Dennis

Marriages Dec 1890
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Brown Sarah Ann Plomesgate 4a 1721
Knights Benjamin Plomesgate 4a 1721

A bit more:

Births Jun 1862
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KNIGHTS Benjamin Plomesgate
4a 647


Benjamin in 1881 – possible
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Robert KNIGHTS
Head M Male 49 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Mary Ann KNIGHTS
Wife M Female 48 Tunstall, Suffolk, England
James KNIGHTS
Son U Male 22 Tunstall, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Robt. KNIGHTS
Son U Male 20 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England Rail Rd Lab
Benj. KNIGHTS
Son U Male 20 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Eliza KNIGHTS
Daur U Female 15 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England
Saml. KNIGHTS
Son U Male 14 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Ann KNIGHTS
Daur U Female 12 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England Scholar
John KNIGHTS
Son U Male 12 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England Scholar
Harry KNIGHTS
Son U Male 8 Blaxhall, Suffolk, England Scholar

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Dwelling Stone Common
Census Place Blaxhall, Suffolk,

Marriage of Robert and Mary Ann above

Marriages Sep 1857
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Knights Robert Plomesgate
4a 971

Reeve Mary Ann Plomesgate
4a 971

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 26 Jan 2010 14:26

1891 for Benjamin and Sarah Ann

Name: Ben Knights
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Blaxhall, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Marlesford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Marlesford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Plomesgate
Sub-registration district: Orford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ben Knights 29
Sarah Ann Knights 24


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 26 Jan 2010 15:21

Is that your tree on Ancestry?? there is a picture of William Ernest Knights on it.

Says his father was Benjamin Knights and his parents were Robert Knights 1831 and Mary Ann Reave.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 26 Jan 2010 15:24

Marriage to Dorothy Gratrick 26 th Dec 1925 at St Peter-at Gowts

Williams occupation was a Horseman.
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1871 England Census
about Benjamin Knights
Name: Benjamin Knights
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Maryann
Gender: Male
Where born: Blaxhall, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Blaxhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Town: Blaxhall
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Plomesgate
Sub-registration district: Wickham Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Knights 40
Maryann Knights 38
James Knights 12
Robert Knights 10
Benjamin Knights 9
Susanna Knights 6
Eliza Knights 5
Samuel Knights 4
Ann Knights 2
John Knights 1


1861 England Census
about Robert Knights
Name: Robert Knights
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Blaxhall, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Blaxhall
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:HORSE SHIRES (Ag Lab)

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Plomesgate
Sub-registration district: Wickham Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Knights 30
Mary Ann Knights 28
Willm Reave 7 1854 Tunstall, Suffolk
James Knights 2
Robert Knights 8 Mo
Margaret Reave 63 Mother in law 1798 Tunstall, Suffolk

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Robert Knights
Name: Robert Knights
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Plomesgate
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 971

Robert Knights 1857 Plomesgate Suffolk

Mary Ann Reeve 1857 Plomesgate Suffolk