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Vindictive Post reporting YOU RISK BEING BANNED

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jax

jax Report 15 Jun 2011 16:25

Phil

Did you overlook my question?

jax

philmoir

philmoir Advisor Report 15 Jun 2011 16:06

Fair point Jonesey. I would agree that this does make sense. Will edit my earlier post.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Jun 2011 15:04

Phil,

No arguments with what you say/propose. The only comment that I would make relates to your point number one.

Although accepting that "Free" members are still members, to me it seems wrong that such members should have the ability to report for possible censure posts on boards which they themselves are not permitted to post on. I accept that some posts may in some way offend, breach GR's rules or indeed breach the privacy of "Free" members but as has been suggested elsewhere in this thread an alternative way already exists for "Free" members to report what they see as breaches of GR rules or their own privacy. This they can already do by emailing GR.

By allowing "Free" members the right to effectively instantly remove a post, even for a short time (If the review ultimately finds that the reported post innocent and reinstates it) grants the "Free" member rights which others have to pay for. It is I believe akin to allowing someone who is not on an electoral register the right to vote in an election.

It also means that anyone who has an email address and is capable of completing GR's registration procedure whilst not making any financial commitment is then at liberty to maliciously report innocent posts with impunity should that be their wish.

jax

jax Report 15 Jun 2011 14:54

Hi Phil

Re the moving to the correct board

Is this going to happen straight away or will this take place hours if not days later?

Most of the look up threads on genealogy chat are replied to within minutes and the people helping never mention that it is on the incorrect board. so the poster is going to continue posting there if not told.

I for one am not going to make that mistake again as I do not think we should be subjected to being called "The Board Police" just because we mention the sticky at the top of the board

jax

philmoir

philmoir Advisor Report 15 Jun 2011 14:25

Hi,

My apologies for being quiet on the boards recently. As you must all be aware we have (and sadly are) experiencing technical difficulties in the last few weeks. We have identified some problems areas and these are being worked on and tested.

But in relation to this thread, thanks for the multitude of comments, and my understanding of the "reporting" issue is becoming clearer. To add my personal opinion, there are some changes that we need to consider. These are taken from the opinion I seem to have gathered from reading the 7 pages of postings in this thread.

1. EDIT Only subscribed (Standard/Gold/Platinum) members can "report" issues with postings. Currently Free members can report but they cannot post. This seems a little unfair as stated by Jonesey, people can abuse this by registering multiple times with temporary emails addresses. If you are unregistered or free and click on report, you should be taken to the login screen/payment page.

2. The link says "Report as Abuse" - it should really be "Report" as most of the subsequent options are NOT abuse related. EDIT: copied from later post - I am suggesting the link is actually changed to just say "Report" - and some indication is given as to what Report is for when you hover over, as well as when it is clicked and a confirm dialog box is presented on screen. And finally the report screen that follows should also make it clear as to its purpose and misuse.

3. Once a post has been reported, we show that it is reported for review. I think it would be helpful to state that it has been reported for review for the selected "reason".

4. When a post that has been reviewed is reinstated, we should indicate that the post has been reviewed and accepted or we should show the post container, and display a message to indicate what was not acceptable or why it was removed.

5. If a thread is a duplicate, then the thread should be locked and a message stating where the duplicate is AND have the link work!

6. If the thread is in the wrong board, it should be moved to the correct board, but the original thread locked and a message stating where the thread has moved to along with a link.

7. If a thread is moved, then all members watching the thread should get ONE email to tell them it has moved. Not sure about this - as you probably hate too many emails coming from Genes if you're very active on the boards.

8. We currently don't have a feature to monitor who is reporting posts, and how many are accepted after they are reported. We need to take much more notice of this, and build into our admin system the ability to highlight repeated "wrongful use" of the reporting feature.

EDIT Added 9. If you click on the Report option, you should get a message asking you to confirm if you meant to do this. AND/OR there should be a cancel Report on the Report page that follows.

EDIT Added 10. Review the 'new posts' icon and consider reverting back to how it displayed before as it is now less useful. See lancashireAnn comment below

EDIT Added 11. Consider that posts are only removed when 3 or more reports are received.

Have I missed anything. I am quite willing to listen to any further ideas on the reporting topic.

These are my "personal" thoughts on the subject.

- Phil

Gai

Gai Report 15 Jun 2011 13:45

Two more threads tonight have been Requested for Review for no good reason.

This is getting beyond a joke and what makes it worse is GR are probably too busy chasing errors to find the culprits.

Gai

Persephone

Persephone Report 15 Jun 2011 08:22

I was told to do breakfast tomorrow my Thursday night your Thursday morning... I have made culinary arrangements Ginny.

Gins

Gins Report 15 Jun 2011 08:18

Shouldnt you be somewhere else Pers???


Errr....like cooking breakfast over there>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Persephone

Persephone Report 15 Jun 2011 08:14

Now how I came to get this hat
Is very strange and funny
My uncle died and left to me
His property and money
And when the will it was read out
They told me straight and flat
If I'm to have his money i must also wear his hat


Very appropriate words for genealogy thread. LOL :-)

Persie

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 15 Jun 2011 07:52

Phil has been a bit quiet lately.

Maybe he is so inundated with complaints that he doesn't know where to start.

The RR'ing seems to be very indiscriminate........I can understand it for bad language and vicious, unnecessary comments but for the long standing, ordinary threads, there is no explanation.

Persie, I mean to ask....


"Where did you get that hat, where did you get that hat?" :-D


Cx

jax

jax Report 15 Jun 2011 00:43

HID has parents born 1925 both still living but I am not giving you any more info ok :-D

Some can be a bit personal but just mentioning a name and the qtr and year of birth of this person just asking for some details, I saw no reason for it to be reported.

Next time you want to mention your mothers cousin can you please get her to supply a letter allowing you to do so please persie :-)

jax

Persephone

Persephone Report 15 Jun 2011 00:33

I would think that when a person reached the 85 years of age mark they would be proud to be mentioned anywhere. I know I would..... and that people that report a post re someone born in 1926 is a bit precious....... yawn yawn.

My mother's cousin's birth name is Ethel Davies she was born in 1919 still allive and doesn't mind a bit that I mention her on here... she served her country in WW2 as a WAAC in Fiji and is the only one of us that has a Mechanics Certificate. She was also a shorthand typist and did a lot of typing up of secret stuff re attacks etc. She had an angora pet rabbit when she was a little girl.... sheesh whatever.

Persie ... there you go whoever report this post.


jax

jax Report 14 Jun 2011 23:52

I am sure like everyone else it is a person/persons doing this persie.

I am sure some have their reasons but most seem ridiculious.

I have noticed that there are not many being reported on living rellies which if a birth being mentioned in 1926 can be reported on find ancestors then most on that board should be too.

jax

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 14 Jun 2011 23:37

I thought they were sorting this out and dealing with the person/people involved..it just seems to go on and on with no response from GR to any of the suggestions made.

Persephone

Persephone Report 14 Jun 2011 23:31

What can it be if it is not a person doing this Jax? :-S

Are we being invaded by daleks :-(

I daren't say it is our ancestors returning to kick up havoc ;-)
Holly's thread on that subject got completely whooshed :-P

All this reporting is getting rather tedious...

jax

jax Report 14 Jun 2011 22:33

There seems to be a few reported today some for no reason...one I just noticed maybe because she mentioned a birth in 1926??

If it is a person doing this they will have a field day when replies are allowed on Living rellies :-)


jax

Gins

Gins Report 14 Jun 2011 22:21

No, I dont watch home and away....but I have seen the thread and to RR is stoopid

Who ever is doing this WILL be outed....the silly petulant little person

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 14 Jun 2011 21:32

General Chat : Anyone watch Home and Away?
has been R R - that is silly :-(

Gins

Gins Report 14 Jun 2011 21:10

It's hardly the worse word in the world to use!

However if someone is offended then I guess they have the right to report it

But......I do think we have a serial thread reporter who will at some point run out of email addresses to use!

What ever!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jun 2011 20:45

But I thought that no-one under the age of 16 was supposed to be allowed to register on this site?


I do agree that the word c**p was probably the reason why someone reported it