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CupCakes

CupCakes Report 4 Jun 2013 03:09

Not sure which heading this post should go but considering the way the boards are going on at the moment it needs urgent attention.

I would suggest the OP's are locked so they can only be edited by the author or by GR.

We have lost some very useful and interesting threads of late because people don't like what is written or later down the line when they are annoyed at what somebody trying to say they report/rr the OP. When others are not able to read the OP, they don't understand what is going on and they start to generalise. In some cases the flow has gone completely off topic and a bit nasty......................less said the better.

I concede that an OP can be reported for a decision to be made later but not rr'd so that it suddenly disappears from the boards leaving a hole in the flow of the following messages.

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 4 Jun 2013 07:31

I see the original thread on this suggestion has been deleted for reasons beyond my comprehension

I remember when reported posts remained in view and would not like this reinstated as sometimes the posts can be inflammatory, have details in which breach the Data Protection Act, is vulgar, profane or offensive and should not be allowed to remain in view.

I don't understand the suggestion that the OP or GR only allowed to edit posts as this is the situation now. GR already have the ability to lock posts if they so wish but is it being suggested that the OP has this ability too. Interesting thought but that could lead to empty threads where the poster puts up their opinion and locks the thread so no discussion can ensue. Therefore I wouldn't like that to be available as multiple threads could then pop up all on the same subject with no right to reply. Not really conducive to the flow of boards.

There is already a suggestion on this board that when an OP is reported that the rest of the thread is locked to prevent further additions. I think this is an excellent idea but don't know how difficult it would be for GR to have a switch which locks the board when a thread is reported.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 08:41

As I contributed to your original thread on this and never receives any feedback from you on the questions I asked you regarding clarification of just what your suggestion is because you appear not to fully understand how the boards work? so I have added a copy of my post below

NS, I'm not sure what you are suggesting,

You say, I would suggest the OP's are locked and can only be edited by the writer or by GR.

The OP can only be edited by the writer/author or GR so what do you mean when you say ( locked )


Their has been a suggestion that once a post or thread is RR'd that it should be "locked" in order to stop others adding to the thread but this has been rejected by GR, see Suggestions Board Roundup 17 May 2013 15:08

"We have lost some very useful and interesting threads of late because people don't like what is written or later down the line when they are annoyed at what somebody is saying they report the OP"

Any thread and their for the OP is subject to the same rules and T&C's as all other posts and their for if it breaches the rules the thread will be removed just as any other post would be which is the correct way to deal with all instances when something is reported and the report upheld

"I concede that an OP can be reported for a decision to be made later but not rr'd so that it suddenly disappears from the boards leaving a hole in the flow of the following messages"

Reporting and being RR'd are the same thing so that makes no sense

Roy

Susan

Susan Report 4 Jun 2013 08:45



I have always thought that the OP (Opening post ) has always been only allowed to be altered by the Opening postie who put it there to start with or Genes so what is this thread all about. :-\

Edit
What happened to last nights Thread on the same subject

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 08:53

Every time a Post Or the Thread OP is Reported (RR'd) then the content is removed and replaced with "this post has been reported for review" also once reported the Post is also "Locked" in the sence that It cannot be edited or deleted by the writer/author, That is how it should be and for very obvious reasons

Roy

JustGillian

JustGillian Report 4 Jun 2013 09:15

I am 100% against the suggestion that opening posts should remain on the boards after they have been reported for review. GR’s team is small and therefore cannot always make prompt decisions about reported posts, especially at weekends. In the absence of moderators, the automatic removal of a post deemed by a member to be, for example, over-smutty, breaching the privacy of individuals, or posted with the intention of causing argument on the boards, is the best solution.

I fully support the suggestion of locking a thread after the OP has been reported. This would prevent all the speculation on a thread about whodunnit and why, and stop too what often seems to be revenge/spite RRing on the thread.

For the current RR system to work fairly and efficiently however, I think that the right to RR should be restricted to paying members.

The opening poster mentions “the way the boards are going on at the moment”. GR was my starting point for my research and I found an enormous amount of friendly help on the boards, not just by asking questions but by reading all the research threads and tips. Sadly, I have recently removed GR from my list of recommended websites on my TP pages and have temporarily (I hope) stopped recommending it to newbies and new contacts.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Jun 2013 09:24

I fail to see why the OP removed her thread and reinstated her original post when it was clear to all that other posters had copies of the various versions of posts that were part of this thread.

It could be said that "We have lost some very useful and interesting...." posts!

I asked the OP not to make late changes to her posts - gone a bit too far with this!!

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 4 Jun 2013 10:56

For attn GR:

Yesterday I posted on the same subject ( Original thread has been deleted and replaced over night***EDIT: I assume by the OP?) with the comment that it USED to be that a post , even the opening post, which had been reported remained visible until reviewed by GR.

At the weekends this could mean a really vile, offensive, untrue and personally abusive post could be there for all to read for days. I would not like to return to that situation.

The original post was edited. So I responded to the edit, with some outlines of what I perceived as "common decency" when posting eg:

Not being derogatory to the member's family who have no right of reply.
Not posting upsetting details which are un-necessary and un-asked for.
Being able to apologise if you have inadvertently upset someone.
Be polite, if at all possible. ( edit I don't think I said this on the original...but it goes without saying really?)

Those comments are NOT off topic as if one applies them , there will BE NO need to lock a thread, which I also remarked 'GR can already do ' .

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 10:57

It would be beneficial if NS could post in order to clarify just what is being suggested otherwise their is no point in either starting such threads or posting on them

Roy

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 4 Jun 2013 11:27

NS rarely comes back to a post (although she probably reads all the comments)

And if NS does come back it is usually because another post does not agree with the views posted.

Oh to live in a world where I am always right.......

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 11:40

No point starting a THREAD if your not going to "Add" to it or make yourself available to comment further to any replies added,

Roy

CupCakes

CupCakes Report 4 Jun 2013 16:34

I have been asked by GR not to respond to any comment that is a personal attack on my person. I have officially reported five people...............That any futher problem posts I should let them know.

It has been said that many of my posts have made the boards lively and interesting which is the objective so more people will join in. Naturally a difference of opinion or discussion one wouldn't object to. Hoever it is so very sad the way they have been turned into something else.

PP I don't come back to posts because.......and besides I'm not sitting on my bum all day - I do have other things going on in my life. Walking stick and pain killers n' all.

This post doesn't need further clarification from me - my opinion is not going to change. This is not the only chat board I belong to, so I know the ropes. Other people may have their own opinion on the subject that's the nature of the game.

:-D :-D

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Jun 2013 16:47

Looks to me as though you have now killed off the Genes discussion boards.

You are not an innocent party in all of this, whatever you may say.



Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 16:54

NS "I have been asked by GR not to respond to any comment that is a personal attack on my person"

Are you saying that my Posts on this thread are a personal attack on YOU?

"It has been said that many of my posts have made the boards lively and interesting"

As a regular user of the boards I have NEVER seen that said,

"PP I don't come back to posts because.......and besides I'm not sitting on my bum all day - I do have other things going on in my life"

Is that a personal attack on Me?

You had ample time to and did start at least two other threads and reply on several others in the course of today so if you purposely ignored this thread that could be seen as being rude

I have other things going on in my life and don't sit on my bum all day even when posting this I'm actualy standing up

"This post doesn't need further clarification from me - my opinion is not going to change"

If anyone posts a suggestion and others don't understand what is being suggested then clarification is asked for and its good manors to reply, as for your opinion NO ONE is asking for it so your opinion on this matter is irrelevant and i have no idea why you have included that in the reply you have given

After your reply I am starting to think this thread should also be brought to the attention of GR

Roy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 17:41

NS, Having thought about your post 4 Jun 2013 16:34 and said After your reply I am starting to think this thread should also be brought to the attention of GR on my post 4 Jun 2013 16:54

I have decided to report it because I believe your post is making a personal attack on me and others and as you also say,

"This post doesn't need further clarification from me"

I think the refusal to clarify your suggestion makes the suggestion (what ever it is ) irrelevant and so should be removed from the suggestions board as it's not really a suggestion at all IMHO

Roy

CupCakes

CupCakes Report 4 Jun 2013 17:49

Sorry PigletsPal - what a laugh :-D :-D :-D Roy took my off the top of my head joke as meaning him. :-D :-D :-D actually got tears running down my face - can't stop. Two pp's wow

Think we should all start running..........

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 17:55

It matters not NS, a personal attack is a personal attack regardless of which PP

Just why you find such things funny I have no idea

Roy

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Jun 2013 18:00

Could someone tell me where the "off the top of my head joke" is - I can't find it. Without it Nana Sues post is pointless!
thanks

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jun 2013 18:15

Jokes by nature are Funny, Their was nothing funny in the post I Reported

I never reported it to remove the content,

I reported because of the content, but my objection to the content was in relation to the part that NS apparently finds funny and I saw as a personal attack

so hear is the so called joke, So you can decide for yourself

(PP I don't come back to posts because.......and besides I'm not sitting on my bum all day - I do have other things going on in my life)


Roy

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 4 Jun 2013 18:16

I have asked 'Support' to take a look at this thread.

I think it's important to note that some of the posters on the original thread last night will not be around at the moment, the general view on the TOPIC, was (imo) that it was and is an unworkable suggestion. It was unfortunate that NanaSue edited certain posts AFTER people had responded, making their posts and her own read quite differently. Maybe the decision was taken by NanaSue, that she had dug herself into a large hole and it was better to start again??


There is another suggestion on this board about the problems caused by 'post response editing'.... changing the meaning of a post by editing it after it has been replied to is at best confusing and at worst deliberately misleading.

That might be a suggestion GR would like to consider more closely, the thread is http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/suggestions/thread/1325825