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Who are we looking in for In Derbyshire?

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Derek Report 22 Oct 2008 13:43

Hi Uzzi.....just a quick first look cos i have to go out..
RICHARD TURNER (of Eckington) married PHOEBE GARFIT (of Staveley) 18.06 1792.
I would lokk for Richard a little ealier than 1777..more when I return thi evening.



UzziInSunshine Report 22 Oct 2008 16:31

Hi Derek
I can't find him earlier either, unless I am really missing something !
Thanks for looking


Julia Report 22 Oct 2008 17:01

Derek, you get brilliant results for people on here with Derbyshire queries. But, and I am saying this in the spirit of joviality, do you have a counter-part who does Whittlesey, Cambs, or have you any suggestions. As you might gather, I am at desparation point,brick wall, don't know where to turn from here, and any other euphenisms, you can thinks of.
Julia in Derbyshire


AnninGlos Report 22 Oct 2008 17:52

thank you Derek. There was a Helen born to William and Elizabeth Nightingale My cousin many years ago gave me a copy of the baptismal records that this is on. I think it is 29 December but would you believe, no place and no year. But the IGI gives 29 December 1805 Belper which ties in with my Ellen's dob in later censuses. However this is an entry by a member with no batch number.

I have a 'gut' feeling that Either Elizabeth died and William then married a Mary, or Elizabeth was also known as Mary.

At no time in any census, work house records, later marriage certificate or death certificate is Ellen ever known as Helen although I know the names are interchangeable. if you ever do go to Matlock and can follow this up for me I would be really grateful. thank you.



Mary Report 22 Oct 2008 19:16

Hi Derek I have a Thomas Hudson born 1792 in Sutton on the 1841 census he has a wife Ann(born in Heath) and 3 children Thomas, Sylvia both aged 5 and Shea? aged 4 they are living in Bakewell. On the 1851 census he has a son John born 1844. Any info on them would be great


Derek Report 22 Oct 2008 22:10

Hi Julia.....first..Whittlesey is very cloe to peterborough so may not have parish registers of its own
I don't have any links with cambridgeshire....and i started in much the same way as someone has to to acquire the sorts of records i have for derbyshire. much of which is hard cash to purchase CD's of Registers........
I think the first thing anyone must do is see exactly what transcribed records are available on CD..or put a thread on Records Office asking for anyone has any....
I'll have a search on Genuki cambridgeshire for you.
More later



Derek Report 22 Oct 2008 22:12

Ann (in Glos)! The William and Mary marriage i have is for 1831....and there are only two perhaps he did marry again later in life???



Derek Report 22 Oct 2008 23:14

Hi Mary...Just had a quick look ,,more later hopefully..There are three separate Thomas and Ann Hudson entries in the bakewell register....two of them are too early but i do have children that don't match up to your information.and aince the Baptisma end at 1841 there is no John b 1844.
I give you these names simply as children of any old thomas and Ann Hudson in this period..Make of them what you may:
Ann 25.05.1822
Elizabeth 26.06.1824
Sylvia 26.08.1831
Thomas 01.06.1834
Ellen 05.03.1837

But what I DO have is the burial of THOMAS HUDSON 11.12.1870 aged 78 (exact match!) and ANN HUDSON 15.12.1862 aged 65....looks likely also.depending on what you know of the year she was born.

Have found Heath... and have found Sutton cum Duckmanton the birthplaces of yoru two....but I do not as yet have the Parish Registers for them...I'll have a look around....

Hope this is of some use as a preliminary



Mary Report 23 Oct 2008 14:47

Thank you so much thought Shea was a made up name now I can see its Ellen with a curly E. Ann was born 1797 so another exact match!


Derek Report 23 Oct 2008 16:51

Actually the transcribers thought it was Shea too!! goo for you!!


AnninGlos Report 23 Oct 2008 17:40

Derek, Ellen was born in 1805 though. I think there is an earlier marriage of a William Nightingale to a Mary Timpany, that is a member entered one on the IGI.


Suz from Notts

Suz from Notts Report 23 Oct 2008 21:27

Hi Derek,
I have John Sanders born 1781 ,Tissington,Ashbourne ,Derbyshire.I also have Mappleton as a place of marriage,anything at all would be great.


Derek Report 25 Oct 2008 09:41

I don't have any records fpr Tissington,,but I'm looking around for you



Mary Report 25 Oct 2008 09:56

Hi Derek,
do the records show fathers occupation? Thomas Hudson was an ag. lab.
Thanks Mary


covlass Report 25 Oct 2008 11:04

Hi Derek
I am looking for baptism of Benjamin Brentnall c1803 I believe family was connected to a St Mary's church in Derbyshire he married there on 12 July 1827
Any information would be great Brentnall's are causing me many head aches
Regards Sharon


Derek Report 25 Oct 2008 16:54

Hi Mary..they do and he was an Ag



Derek Report 25 Oct 2008 17:37

Hi Saron.........not easy chasing a St >ary's church in Derbyshire.........however....
Looks like your Benjamin might have come from Denby near Ripley in Derbyshire.....and if he married there..he moved later to Nottingham.because his son John was born about 1841 in Carlton Nottingham.
Was Benjamin a Game keeper?? If so, by 1851 he was a widower in Bingham..a few miles outside Nottingham....I know it well because i live in Nottingham....
But by 1871 aged about 66/7 he is in Denby as a lodger with a load of Brentnalls who can only be his relatives children and grandchildren...I'm guessing he died in Denby..and there are memorial inscriptions to the church yard of St. mary the Denby......

I hope this is some help.......and i do know from my records that there were a large number of Brentnalls in derbys, from.but i don't have any
recordsfor Denby.......
Let me know if i can be of any further help

Good luck.


Mary Report 25 Oct 2008 18:07

I wouldnt be surprised if all the baptisms you found were their children
Thanks for all your help


Derek Report 25 Oct 2008 21:24

Hi everybody..hope I'm not breaking the rules..cos i do have a thread on "Records office" about Derbyshire...........just to let you knoe that i am now able to offer a much wider portfolio than before.My speciality has been North Derbyshire..but now i am now able to offer help in South Derbyshire as well.....less comprehensive perhaps..but maybe useful



fudge1 Report 25 Oct 2008 22:40

You probably are breaking the rules but wouldn,t life be boring if we all did as we should , nighty night,gillx