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Looking on Ancestry site Alan.

here's Doris coming back into England with her husband John H S Stewart

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Doris E Stewart (mistranscribed - it is Doris M on original)
Birth Date: 7 Dec 1904 (looks like 1906 on original)
Age: 55
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 5 May 1960
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Karachi, Aden and Port Said
Ship Name: Circassia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Circassia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Anchor Line Ltd
Official Number: 1748/01



Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 1453; Item: 5


John H. S. Stewart was born on10th February 1905 in Scotland.
Occupation - Harbour Master

Destination address - 1 Brompton Square, London SW3

have you got this one ?

travelling with husband and daughter Patricia

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Doris M Stewart
Birth Date: abt 1905
Age: 41
Port of Departure: Montrã©AL, Quã©Bec, Canada
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1946
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Franconia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Franconia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 166217



Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 1217; Item: 152


Husband John is a Pilot.

Destination address - c/o Westminster Bank, Brompston Square, SW3

Thanks Choocy, not got last two incoming passenger lists, they certainly did some travelling.I wonder if there is a site or dept. in India for marriages in India.
Does anyone know which part of the naval service John came under, when he retired in 1960 he was not in the Mumbai Port Trust pension scheme, one assumes the position he held he would have been receiving a pension from somewhere, would this have been sent to the country he was living in? There is a chance they moved to Australia.

Can any of you lovely people now do a summary of the movements of this family? I will do it myself, to satisfy myself, but not the time do do it right now. Am getting a bit dizzy with it all.

Has anybody managed to find anyting more about the brother of Patricia's husband?

Sorry, been away for a few days.

Margaret

Looks like Phillip Heasman (possible brother of Leslie Heasman) and Phyllis divorced.

Here is Phyllis' second marriage -

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Phyllis E De La G Heasman
Spouse Surname: Hundley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1951
Registration district: Hove
Registration county (inferred): Sussex
Volume Number: 5h
Page Number: 735
Find Spouse: George R Hundley

looks like there was a child of the first marriage of Phillip Heasman and Phyllis Cameron

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
Name: Anthony B Heasman
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cameron
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1939
Registration district: Hove
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 503

Well done Choccy.

So Phyllis Cameron and Phillip Braham Heasman divorced we guess. He married Gwynneth M Morley in Dec 1951 and she married George R Hundley in Sep 1851.

No apparent children from either of these marriages.

Only child found is to Phillip Heasman and Phyllis Cameron, Anthony B Heasman b Sep 1939, Hove, Sussex.

So looked for a nice easy marriage of Anthony B Heasman. Several possibles, none of Anthony B. Pity, cos he would be the cousin of Alan's Patricia.

Phew. Alan, we are trying to get there.

Margaret

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Philip Braham Heasman
Name: Philip Braham Heasman
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1986
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: West Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 2041

Wonder if he is buried somewhere, with a headstone (wishful thinking), but with other family members. Worth contacting the local cemetery.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Gwynneth May Heasman
Name: Gwynneth May Heasman
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1910
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 1986
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: West Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 2351

Margaret

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Phyllis Eileen D Hundley
Name: Phyllis Eileen D Hundley
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1909
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1990
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 13

No death for George R Hundley. Could be still alive.

Food for thought........

There is an Anthony B Heasman, age 65+, living in West Sussex (Worthing) on the electoral roll 2002-2009, with Christine E Heasman also 65+. There is a marriage of Anthony D Heasman to Christine E Hutchings in Sept 1963. The "D" is how it has been transcribed, but the original is not clear.

This could be his phone number/address.

A.B Heasman
Tel: (01903) 234056 - Text Number
35 Bulkington Av, Worthing, BN14 7HH - Map

Worth writing a letter Alan?

Still not received John's and Doris's marriage cert. guess I am in the hands of the post office which could mean anytime, lets hope they don't go on strike again. Sent e-mail to India National Archives for info on marriages in India, it was them who put me on to the Mumbia Port Trust who help me with info on Capt John Stewart, awaiting reply.

Alan, what did you think about writing a letter to A.B. Heasman? Could be Patricia's only cousin. Worth a try? What do you think?

Margaret

Margaret, Intend to write will keep you informed.

Ooh Alan, I hope you do. Please let us know what happens.

We are sharing this with you.

Margaret

On 23rd November you said you had sent for Doris's marriage certificate. Has it not arrived yet? Two weeks is a bit long for the GRO at the moment.

Please let us have the details as soon as it arrives.

Just received Doris and John's marriage cert. details, 17th.Dec. 1933.
Doris Marie Cooper 28yrs. spinster, father John Cooper [ deceased ] mechanical engineer.
John Hannah Stevenson Stewart 28yrs. Chief Officer Merchantile Marine, father William Stewart, Innkeeper [ retired ]
With Doris's father shown as deceased, Isaac John Cooper who married Pricilla was still alive in 1933.
I have found a John Cooper ,25yrs, Engineer, in Bedwellty, Wales, single, 1911 census, but no Doris Marie Cooper
The witnesses are difficult to read it looks like a Pegeen Nail, Margarerite Guggeishein, Margarerite Deutschibein and another ? Nail.
In letters/cards from Doris before she married there is a Pegeen mentioned we think thats were Patricia gets one of her names.

Oh Heck. I have been waiting for this, hoping it would be full of good information. What a problem we have now.

So Doris's father is John, a mechanical engineer, deceased.

Not Isaac John. Interesting. And Isaac John is still alive. So she is not the daughter of Isaac John.

The witnesses could be vital, especially the one that looks like Pegeen, which is most unusual.

I am going to PM you and ask if you can email me this marriage cert to scrutinise, Alan. I don't know if it will do any good, but we have to try.

Bye for now, back later.

Margaret

Does anyone know if a Hammerman Labourer is s person who becomes a Mechanical Engineer?