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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Aug 2013 21:56

Who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Rose

Reggie

Reggie Report 23 Aug 2013 09:04

Rose

That was why I posted the census on the other thread........where it was 'overlooked'.......................shall we say.

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 23 Aug 2013 08:33

Anslow is probably Hounslow. And

In my own research I was never able to find my g/grandfathers birth record, but was able to find his Baptism, so I knew he existed!!

Then about 2 months ago I decided I would try again, this time I just entered the surname Simpson, the area, and the 2 years either side of his birth (belt & braces).

I then cross referenced all the named births and deaths of children, discounted all the deaths of those also named and was left with 1 birth of a Male Simpson in the right year and quarter.

Now I know my g/grandfather had been disabled from birth (gammy leg) so I decided to order this certificate and when it arrived lo and behold there he was. Right home address, rigth parents.

Now I can only assume that they registered his birth a.s.a.p. without naming him, then almost immediately went and had him Baptised.

So as I have said in the past with this Family History malarky it really does pay to
'think outside the box' (god knows I hate these expressions) as it can really be useful.

:-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Aug 2013 08:30

Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
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COOPER Gentellia Bromley 2a 735
KINGSLAND George Bromley 2a 735
Powell Alfred Bromley 2a 735
Reeve Edith Bromley 2a 735

(google has below, from search, gentellia cooper)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbhistory/html/NF2233810?thread=7713787

Chris :)

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Aug 2013 06:34

Reggie,

That could be her in 1891. All the ages are multiples of 5, apart from the ones under 20. The enumerator makes a comment that he is unable to ascertain anything apart from the names.

Rose

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Aug 2013 22:33

Death

Name: POWELL, Gentie
egistration district: Fulham
County: London
Year of registration: 1915
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:46
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 359

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Aug 2013 22:31

Copied from your other thread....................comment please.

Puzzled

This is 1891............where Gentella is shown as being 25................born c1866

Or was there more than one with the rather unusual name?

1891 census

Person: COOPER, Gentella Address: Gipsies, Alexandra Road, Ashford

LEE, Earlie Single M 20 1871
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LEE, Walter Single M 19 1872
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CASTLE, Thomas Single M 19 1872
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MATHI, James Single M 18 1873
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MATHI, Thomas Single M 17 1874
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WHITE, Mary Married F 40 1851
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JAMES, Mary Married F 40 1851
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JAMES, Georgina Single F 30 1861
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JAMES, Ellen Single F 30 1861
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JAMES, Jane Single F 30 1861
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BENT, Allan Single F 30 1861
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BENT, Ellen Single F 30 1861
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BENT, Mary A Single F 30 1861
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BENT, Bessie Single F 30 1861
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SAUNDERS, Beliah Single F 30 1861
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LIGHT, Georgina Single F 30 1861
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LIGHT, Ethel Single F 30 1861
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COOPER, Patience Single F 25 1866
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COOPER, Mary Single F 25 1866
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COOPER, Gentella Single F 25 1866
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COOPER, Eliza Single F 25 1866
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COOPER, Patience Single F 30 1861
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COOPER, Olive Single F 30 1861
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HAMILTON, Elizabeth Single F 30 1861
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HAMILTON JNR, Elizabeth Single F 20 1871
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LEE, Portabella Single F 20 1871
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LEE, Caroline Single F 20 1871
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CASTLE, Rachael Single F 20 1871
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PARKER, Louisa Single F 20 1871
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MATTIS, Louisa Single F 20 1871
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MATTIS, Shannie F 19 1872
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MATTIS, Louisa Single F 17 1874
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Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Aug 2013 22:28

Odds are that her birth simply wasn't registered

Was she actually recorded as being 21 on her marriage cert?

Michelle

Michelle Report 22 Aug 2013 20:58

That thread is very confused. It is not the Gentelia who was born in Brighton. My Gentelia some times lists herself on the census as Jenty, or Genty. She couldn't read or write. She died on the 21st December 1915 in Fulham (51 Pearscroft Road). On her death certificate her name is listed as Genty. My gt gt grandfather was from a gipsy family. On one census she says that she was born in Eltham and another Anslow??!! On her daughters birth certificate her name is Gentelia Powell maiden name Cooper x

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 20:42

That thread looks very confused.

Just for info, this is some of the initial mix-up?
Gentilia Cooper
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 15 Nov 1874
Christening Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name: Samuel Cooper
Mother's Name: Patience

?
Gentilia Cooper
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1874
Date of Registration: Sep 1970
Age at Death: 95
Registration District: Haringey
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1812

I will stop, now.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2013 20:32

Michelle, it would be better to continue on your existing thread so all the info is in one place:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1328888

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 20:30

What were the names of the witnesses on the marriage certificate?
Thanks

Added:
Have you got her death details?

Michelle

Michelle Report 22 Aug 2013 20:20

Here is a my problem. I have received the marriage certificate for my great great grandmother. Her name is shown as Gentylia but where she signs her name she has spelt it Gentillia. (Married John Alfred Powell in Bromley) Her fathers name is William Cooper, a gas worker. She is aged 21 in 1892 and is residing in North Cray Kent. I cannot find her on a census prior to this and I cannot find her birth.....I would appreciate any help x :-S