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Susan Report 23 Sep 2013 04:07

I am trying to find Anna Maria SAFFIN born 1840 Langley Marsh, Wiveliscombe, Somerset to John and Mary (nee Greedy) Saffin. In 1841 and 1851 censuses she is at home with her parents. In 1871 she is working at Millbrook House, Child Okeford, Dorset as a parlourmaid. In 1891 she is working at Babington House, Babington, Somerset as a domestic servant.

However, I cannot find her in the 1861 or 1881 censuses. I have tried GR, Ancestory and FreeCen.

She died in 5 Aug 1892. Probate granted 30 Aug 1892. She left 70 pounds 7s 2d to her sister Jane Saffin.

Any help would be much appreciated.



SylviaInCanada Report 23 Sep 2013 06:41

There is this one ........................... I'm not convinced that her age is 18 on the image

Was there another Anna M Saffin born in Wivelscombe around 1863???

1881 Census

Name: Anna M. Saffin
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Wivelscombe, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 23 Worcester St

Occupation: Nurse Maid

Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 35

Richard C. Jarvis 35 Family Grocer
Keyia Jarvis 39
Richard L. Jarvis 2
Fredrick C. Jarvis
Richard Jarvis 60
Harry D. Jarvis 18
Arthur W. Wenlock 15
Eliza Lloyd 23
Anna M. Saffin 18

EDIT:- wrong!!!

ooops ......... yes there was an Anna M. Saffin born around 1863 ...... so this is NOT the one

I'll leave it up so that no-one else gets sidetracked!


Choccy Report 23 Sep 2013 06:59

mis-transcribed -


RG number: RG11
Piece: 2404
Folio: 65
Page: 43
Reg. District: Frome
Sub District: Kilmersdon
Parish: Babington
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Babington House, Babington
County: Somersetshire

KNATCHBULL, Francis Brother Head Married M 48 1833 Lieutenant Colonel ?
Fritwell, Oxfordshire
KNATCHBULL, Sarah Sister In Law Married F 32 1849 Wife Of Above
Galway, Ireland
KNATCHBULL, Maud F Niece Single F 9 1872 Daughter Of Above
Madras, India
KNATCHBULL, Eileen L Niece Single F 8 1873 Daughter Of Above
Madras, India
KNATCHBULL, Wyndham P Nephew Single M 7 1874 Son Of Above
Madras, India
KNATCHBULL, Hubert F Nephew Single M 2 1879 Son Of Above
Yarmouth, Norfolk
GULLY, Violet Slade Niece Single F 15 1866 Scholar
E Cholderton, Hampshire
GRAY, Wyndham Resident Single F 58 1823
BERIAN, Pauline Visitor Single F 45 1836 Servant & Nurse
Paris, France
BASHAM, Martha Visitor Single F 21 1860 Servant & Undernurse
Holt, Norfolk
ANDREWS, Emma Servant Single F 54 1827 House Keeper
Teddington, Middlesex
>>>>>>PAFFIN, Anna Maria Servant Single F 41 1840 Head Housemaid
Wiveliscombe, Somerset
WHATLEY, Comfort Servant Single F 18 1863 Kitchenmaid
Warminster, Wiltshire
PLUMLEY, Emily Servant Single F 18 1863 Under Housemaid
Shepton Mallet, Somerset
EVES, John Servant Married M 38 1843 Butler
Kingsbury, Somerset
HUNT, Solomon Servant Widower M 68 1813 Coachman (D)
Bramshaw, Hampshire


SylviaInCanada Report 23 Sep 2013 07:17

good find, Choccy!

I thought mis-transcription would be the reason


Susan Report 23 Sep 2013 08:51

Syvlia and Choccy

Many thanks for that. I ticked name variatons but obviously that didn't include a P for an S. So that takes care of 1881 will continue looking for 1861 - goodness know how the name may be spelt. Does help that there are several related families in Wiveliscombe who all chose the same name like William Saffin or John Saffin!



Susan Report 23 Sep 2013 09:04

Sylvia and Choccy

After reading this decided to use Anna M and type variations of Saffin. So I used Laffin as written Ls are often mistaken for Ss and, guess what, I found her. Not only was the surname wrong but her name was given as Hannah Maria which is probably the result of regional accents. Also Wiveliscombe had been transcribed as Welicnbone or something similar.

So thanks for the inspiration this lady is now complete.


Choccy Report 23 Sep 2013 09:13

Pleased you found it - I tried all sorts of variations but couldn't see her!



Potty Report 23 Sep 2013 12:01

Quite often just using first names and YOB and POB will bring up results. S & L are often confused in transcriptions but I have even found P transcribed as V!


Susan Report 23 Sep 2013 12:11

I am still learning about all of this but Wiveliscombe seems to be a real problem woolscombe and so on but a lot depends on the transcript I think - another ancestor Conibere was transcribed as Cnnomvere. If commonsense is used most would know that an 'English' surname would have those sorts of letters in them.

Am now off to hunt Vigars!

Thanks to you all


Potty Report 23 Sep 2013 12:20

I think the reason common sense doesn't seem to be used in some transcriptions is that they are done by people whose first language isn't English so that what seems obvious to us isn't so to them.

Mind you, I made some pretty obvious mistakes when I transcribed for freebmd!


SylviaInCanada Report 23 Sep 2013 19:08

Susan ..........

so glad that you've found her!

I did try searching on forename only, but didn't get anywhere!

One part of the problem for transcribers, apart from when they are not native English speakers, is that they have to put down what they see, not what they know it should be. So even knowledgeable transcribers can be in a bind!