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Hello

Can anyone help in finding out what happened to Lily Klersti Christenson & her daughter Doreen L Schonbeck.

Lily Klersti Christenson born 1892 ST George Hanover Square, London
Baptised 1896 in St Marylebone
Married Ernest Schonbeck in 1920 Marylebone

daughter Doreen L Schonbeck was born 1922 Marylebone

Ernest Schonbeck later married again to Jeanne Rigby (when and if he divorced Lily is unknown)

Ernest later died in 1940 along with his wife Jeanne and 2 of his 5 children in the Manchester bombings but nothing crops up on Lily and her daughter?

I do know that Ernest changed his surname to Carr so i have searched both surnames but nothing comes up? :( I did once hear that Lily had descendants in Canada but whether that was from her emigrating or later family member.

Any help would be fantastic :)

For INFO

Marriages Dec 1935 (>99%)
Carr Ernest Rigby Manchester S. 8d 335
Rigby Jeanne Carr Manchester S. 8d 335

No record of Lily or Doreen on emigration lists on FMP with the name Schonbeck

Lily was at her parents in 1933,


Name: Mrs Lily Carr
Year: 1933
County or Borough: Westminster
Ward or Division/Constituency: St Marylebone
Street Address: 31 Jjj


The address is 31 Henry Street.

Name: Mrs Lily Carr
Year: 1934
County or Borough: Westminster
Ward or Division/Constituency: St Marylebone
Street Address: 31 Henry Street

At the same address are the Buchanan and Roy families.

In 1931 a Miss Lily Carr is living with Joseph Buchansn and,


Name: Flora Annie Buchanan
Year: 1931
County or Borough: Westminster
Ward or Division/Constituency: St Marylebone
Street Address: 31 Mian

Have you tried Search All Trees which is under Search at top right hand. Doreen appears to be on two family trees on GR.

So Lily was born 30th December 1891, this date is on her baptism in 1896.

Do you know when Doreen was born? Think her exact DOB may help, however also bare in mind this lady may still be living. Her middle name would also be a benefit too. If you don't have her birth cert I think it could be useful in searches for deaths if she was passed away.

Have you considered this death?


Historical Records
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Lily K Carr
Name: Lily K Carr
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Mar 1951
Age at Death: 59
Registration District: Hampstead
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1239

I wonder if this is Doreen - her birth was registered as both Carr-Schonbeck, and just Schonbeck.

Doreen Lilian Carr
Birth Date: abt 1922
Age: 24
Port of Departure: Cape Town, South Africa
Arrival Date: 14 Jul 1946
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
Ship Name: Carnarvon Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Carnarvon Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 148766

She was a typist & English, last residence South Africa, intented residence 184 Shelbourne Road, Tottenham.

Following on from Flip....
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Doreen L Carr
Name: Doreen L Carr
Spouse Surname: Osborne
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration District: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 1047
Find Spouse: Leslie C Osborne
...................
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Doreen Lilian Osborne
Name: Doreen Lilian Osborne
Birth Date: 9 Oct 1921
Age: 35
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 30 Nov 1956
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
With Leslie Charles Osborne and Malcolm Charles Osborne (born 1949__) going to 184 Shelbourne Rd for a few months.


Maureen

Leslie C Osborne was at 184 Shelbourne Rd in 1946, with Daisy c, James C & Kenneth E

Lily Carr
[Lily Christenson]
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1891
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Registration number: 7805132

Entry from Alien case files, Kansas City archives 1944-2003 - no image and no date given..

Files can be obtained by emailing [email protected]

Excellent find Flip :-D :-D.

I wonder?


All New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Results
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Lily Carr
Name: Lily Carr
Arrival Date: 22 Jun 1950
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 58
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: America
Search Ship Database: Search the America in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Going to Anistown Alabama.

???????

All UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Results
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Lilian Carr
Name: Lilian Carr
Gender: Female
Age: 58
Birth Date: abt 1892
Departure Date: 16 Jun 1950
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: America
Search Ship Database: Search the 'America' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: United States Lines
Official Number: 239738
Master: John G Anderson

Address given, 6 Malborough Hill. St Johns Wood

Thanks MBD, I was just looking at that US arrival - she states she is a widow, but it certainly looks like it may be her.

Hello N and welcome to the Community boards. :-)





I'll let N know that they have replies to their query. :-)

Hello N and welcome to the Community boards. :-)





I'll let N know that they have replies to their query. :-)

Thank you all so much for your help! Im going to look in to all the info you have given me :)

Thank youuuu!! :-D