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Elias edward wareham ??

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lauren

lauren Report 22 Oct 2013 10:47

I have gone back to try again with my family tree and have now got stuck with one of my great grandads , he was called Elias edward wareham, he married dorcus may york and they had 5 children, i dont know about his parents and grandpaents, he was from the somerset area. can somone help please .

Gins

Gins Report 22 Oct 2013 10:59

Hi

Is this his birth, the name on the marriage and death entry is spelt the same



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


Name:Lias Edward Wareham

Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1907

Registration District:Wells

Inferred County:Somerset

Volume:5c

Page:398

Gins

Gins Report 22 Oct 2013 11:01


1911 England Census

Name:Elias Wareham

Age in 1911:3

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1908

Relation to Head:Son

Gender:Male

Birth Place:Chewton Mendip

Civil Parish:Chewton Mendip

County/Island:Somerset

Street Address:Shooters Bottom, Emborough, Bath

Registration District:Wells

Registration District Number:313
Sub-registration District:Wells

ED, institution, or vessel:2
Household Schedule Number:6
Piece:14516

Household Members:

Charles Wareham 52 <<<Quarryman
Elizabeth Wareham 49
Nathaniel Wareham 24
Harry Wareham 23
Burt Wareham 16
Seward Wareham 11
Elsie Wareham 10
Olie Wareham 7
Elias Wareham 3

You need to buy the marriage certificate to check his fathers details




England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name:Lias E Wareham

Spouse Surname:Yorke

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1930

Registration District:Wells

Inferred County:Somerset

Volume Number:5c

Page Number:985

Thelma

Thelma Report 22 Oct 2013 12:08

There are two trees on Mundia.com which do not contain Elias but his siblings.
Just sign in to view for free.
Enter Seward Wareham 1899
Seem to go back to;-
John Wareham
Birth 1610 in Fontmell Magna Shaftesbury
Death 1671 in Fontmell Magna Shaftesbury

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Oct 2013 12:18

Lauren

When you ask for help, please remember that DATES are vital

Do you know how useful freebmd is?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2013 13:58

This is the fmp version of the 1911. States they had had 13 children but 3 had died.



1911 census transcription details for: Shooters Bottom Emborough Bath
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN14516 RG78PN880 RD313 SD1 ED2 SN6
Reg. District: Wells
Sub District: Wells
Parish: Chewton Mendip
Enum. District: 2
Address: Shooters Bottom Emborough Bath
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WAREHAM, Charles Head Married
26 years M 52 1859 Qurriemam Chewton Mendip
WAREHAM, Elizabeth Wife Married
26 years F 49 1862 Ashwich
WAREHAM, Nathaniel Son Single M 24 1887 Quarrieman Chewton Mendip
WAREHAM, Harry Son Single M 23 1888 Carter Stone Wroks Chewton Mendip
WAREHAM, Burt Son Single M 16 1895 Labour Stone Chewton Mendip
WAREHAM, Seward Son M 11 1900 School Chewton Mendip
WAREHAM, Elie Daughter F 10 1901 School Chewton Mendip
WAREHAM, Alie Son M 7 1904 School Chewton Mendip
WAREHAM, Elias Son M 3 1908 Chewton Mendip


Also entered but scored out were George 22, Amelia 21, Emily 19, Minta 18, William 14 and Sarah 3 months.

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2013 14:01

Is this his death? Surely they can't have had 5 children in 3 years?

Parish Record Collection - Burial Record

Day: 30
Month: May
Year: 1933
Birth day:
Birth month:
Birth year:
Age: 25
Forenames: Lias E
Surname: WAREHAM
Place: Chewton Mendip
Dedication: St Mary Magdalen
County: Somerset
Country: England
Type: Headstone
Reference: 11745
Notes: father of John
Record source: Somerset & Dorset Memorial Inscriptions
Data provider: Somerset & Dorset Family History Society

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2013 14:14

So Dorcas remarried.

Name: WAREHAM, Dorcas M
Registration district: Wells
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1938
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Clements
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 1125

Name: CLEMENTS, Hubert



Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: CLEMENTS, Hubert
Registration district: Wells
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1952
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 65
Volume no: 7C
Page no: 268



and again?


Name: CLEMENTS, Dorcas M
Registration district: Wells
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1958
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Higgins
Volume no: 7C
Page no: 477

Name: HIGGINS, Edward G



???

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: HIGGINS, Edward George
Registration district: Mendip
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1978
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of birth: 15 August 1906
Volume no: 23
Page no: 1111



Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: HIGGINS, Dorcas May
Registration district: Mendip
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1996
Month of registration: November
Date of birth: 15 May 1910
District no: 7212
Reg no: SM14C
Ent no: 247
DOR: 1196

lauren

lauren Report 22 Oct 2013 14:59

Thank you all . I really do appricate all the help. i will have a look at the two sites and see how i get on, but may be back :-S, so my great nan was married a few times ? No one ever mentioned that, not even my nan her daughter .

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2013 15:29

This is Dorcas' birth but not finding her in 1911. :-S


Civil Registration event: Birth
Print Close
Name: YORK, Dorcas May
Registration district: Bradford on Avon
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1910
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 118


And yes, please do come back if you need any help.

Gins

Gins Report 22 Oct 2013 15:53

Births Jun 1910
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YORK Dorcas May Bradford on A. 5a 118

I cant find her on the 1911 census?

Having had a pootle around the records and trees, it looks as though Dorcas was illegitimate, born to Florence Ellen York.

Florence later married (1915) Francis James Saunders, he was killed in action in 1916

To be sure you would need to buy Dorcas' birth certificate - details above



Added:


SAUNDERS, FRANCIS JAMES
Rank:Fireman
Date of Death:23/10/1916 Age:28
Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine S.S. "Clearfield" (Newcastle) Panel Reference MemorialTOWER HILL MEMORIAL


Son of Caroline Ellen, and the late Edward Saunders; husband of Florence Ellen Saunders (nee York), of 44, Wine St., Bradford-on-Avon, Wilts. Born at Bristol.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 17:35

Maybe Florence at school in 1901 - but can't see her in 1911 either:


1901 England Census about Florence E Yorke
Name: Florence E Yorke
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford on Avon

Civil Parish: Bath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
Town: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Bath
Sub-registration District: Walcot
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 37
Piece: 2341
Folio: 20
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah A Killington 48 - School headmistress
Eliza Barker 48
Lillian G Rossiter 48
Edith A Court 23
Prudence Lane 28
Bertha A P Bodman 18
Fanny Eason 15
Alice Brain 15
Hephzibah Hillier 16
Florence A Francis 17
Annie M Chambers 18
Gertrude Chambers 16
Sarah A Foley 12
Elsie R Morgan 24
Florence E Yorke 13
Cynthia A Dowding 13
Winifred T Dowding 12
Kate Griffith 9
Louisa Lee 17
Emily Adams 7

lauren

lauren Report 22 Oct 2013 20:14

apparently francis saunders was presumed drowned. where would i buy the birth certificate from ? :-)

Gins

Gins Report 22 Oct 2013 20:25

Hi Lauren

Here is the best place to buy certs


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/