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Help to find elusive ancestor, not pimpernel !

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Joan

Joan Report 7 Nov 2013 19:34

Can anyone help with finding out any early details i.e if my gg-grandfather was born to an unmarried mother. I cannot find anything other than his name Thomas Tomlinson, born 1882 mother named Mary. I have later info on him but not his parent/s, I may be wrong and his mother a widow but I seem to recall my gran saying something unkind about him as he was apparently always drunk, could have just been that he ran a pub, The Bulls Head 74 Church St Salford or Eccles (cant have been that drunk as he had about10 children) Any help appreciated have tried OPC and free BMD but cant seem to find his birth and would like to try to go further back

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Nov 2013 20:26

How do you know his mum was Mary ?

Have you found him on any census?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Nov 2013 20:30

...?

1891 England Census about Thomas F Tomlinson
Name: Thomas F Tomlinson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary A Tomlinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Idle, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Idle
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Idle
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Bradford
Sub-registration District: Idle
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3652
Folio: 73
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Tomlinson 73 widower
Sarah Tomlinson 47 single
Mary A Tomlinson 31 single occ professional vocalist
Thomas F Tomlinson 9
Jane Rhodes 55 boarder

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3652; Folio: 73; Page: 14; GSU Roll: 6098762.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Nov 2013 20:35

Births Jun 1881
TOMLINSON Thomas Frederick Bradford, Y 9b 250


Bradford reg district covers Idle

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 7 Nov 2013 21:26

Not sure about this, could this be his parents, no mention though of a Thomas born 1882, but fits of course with the Eccles address you gave.

1891 Census transcription details for: 74, Bulls Head, Church Street, *, Eccles
National Archive Reference:
RG number RG12
Piece: 3153
Folio: 4
Page: 2
Reg. District: Barton upon Irwell
Sub District: Barton
Parish: *
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 74, Bulls Head, Church Street, *, Eccles
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TOMLINSON, Thos Head Married M 39 1852 Licensed Victualler
Salford, Lancashire
TOMLINSON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 33 1858
Salford, Lancashire
TOMLINSON, Alfred Son Single M 17 1874 Bleacher Maker Up
Salford, Lancashire
TOMLINSON, Wm E Son Single M 15 1876 Bleacher Maker Up
Salford, Lancashire
TOMLINSON, Lilly Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar
Salford, Lancashire
TOMLINSON, Maud Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Salford, Lancashire
TOMLINSON, Albert Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Clayton Bridge, Lancashire

George

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Nov 2013 21:31

Re: the 1881 birth posted above, I think this would be the baptism to accompany it:

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1881
Parish: Idle, Holy Trinity
Baptism Date: 8 Jun 1881
Father's Name: Frederick George Tomlinson - Bookkeeper.
Mother's Name: Annie Tomlinson

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 7 Nov 2013 22:23

Who was his wife and can you list names and dates of his children?

Would help if you could list names and dates for your grandfather and your great grandfather.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 7 Nov 2013 22:31

Can you check names as dates and here you state your grandfather was born between 1900-1905, making it highly unlikely your GG Grandfather was only born 20 years before this.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=662862.0

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 7 Nov 2013 22:41

Is this your grandparents' marriage? You need to purchase this marriage cert. to get William's age and father's name.

Marriages Mar 1924
Tomlinson William Witter Bolton 8c 520
WITTER Lilian Tomlinson Bolton 8c 520

Rose