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Susan

Susan Report 7 Feb 2014 08:13

I was wondering that myself Shirley. His father was german and he had a german sirname: Tiencken. I thought he might have changed it WW1 time as a lot of german people did back then. But that is 16 years after he disappeared. I can't find any death record for him, and I've looked at variation of spellings. Can't find him on the 1901 census, there is a Mr Tiencken in Bloomsbury on the 1911 census but it just says 'Mr Tiencken' and gives the address - no other information!
I'll keep looking.
Thanks everyone for having a look for me. x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Feb 2014 10:09

1911
TIENCKEN, Alfred Ernest Head Single M 38 1873 Manufacturer Agent Essex Hamstead (Wanstead)
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1170
Reference: RG14PN1170 RG78PN39 RD12 SD1 ED1 SN381
Registration District: St Giles
Sub District: St Giles and Bloomsbury
Enumeration District: 1
Parish: St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury
Address: 39 Marchmont Street Bloomsbury
County: London

(do you mean above 1911?)

Chris :)

1911 (or below)
TANAKA, Dr Boarder M 36 (ABOVE 36) 1875 Doctor Of Medicine Japan Visitor
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1184
Reference: RG14PN1184 RG78PN39 RD12 SD1 ED15 SN283
Registration District: St Giles
Sub District: St Giles and Bloomsbury
Enumeration District: 15
Parish:
Address: 76 Gower Street W C
County: London

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Feb 2014 10:43

My paternal grandfather was German he and one of his brothers changed their names from Fahse to Fasey and that was my dads surname from 1907
I have the grt grans death in 1907 but after the 1901 census no sign of the other brothers or my grt grandfather other than on the grt grans death certs showing he was living with the DIL who was Fasey. The widow of the other brother who adopted that name .
I have found .or not found! Lol. It very difficult to trace German ancestors after 1901

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Feb 2014 10:57

Certainly looks a possibility it's an apartment over a shop

Name: Tiencken Mr
Number of Males: 1
Household Schedule Number: 381
Street Address: 39 Marchmont Street
Civil Parish: Bloomsbury St George and St Giles in the Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: Woburn Square Christ Church
County/Island: London
Country: England
Residence Year: 1911
Registration District: St Giles
Registration District Number: 12
Sub-registration District: St Giles and Bloomsbury
Sub-Registration District Number: 1
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 39


Why doesn't it show on the actual census tho ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Feb 2014 11:01

Did an address search but nos 39 isn't listed goes 37 and then 41

Looked on actual census sheet and nos 39 is listed as unoccupied

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Feb 2014 11:48

Do you have Ancestry as there are several spelling adjustments done on the family by a Carol Appleyard

You could send her a message to see what her connection is to the family and if she can help with this query

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Feb 2014 11:50

The FMP 1911 Alfred Ernest Tiencken, as Alfred Ernest Kinchin on Ancestry.

Chris :)

edits (other Sister Marriage)

Ann Elizabeth Tuncken
[Ann Elizabeth Tiencken]
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872
Age:24
Spouse Name:James Martin
Spouse Age:26
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:1 Nov 1896
Parish:Old Ford St Paul
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:Claus Tuncken
Spouse Father:John Martin
Register Type:Parish Register
(wits. George Alfred Wagitts?, Clara Louisa Balls)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Feb 2014 12:46

FMP has the right name.

just checking back on him but its a different family

1881 England Census about Alfred E. Tiencken
Name: Alfred E. Tiencken
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Hienrick Tiencken
Mother: Elizabeth E. Tiencken
Gender: Male
Where born: Wanstead, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 146 Turners Road
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 487
Folio: 52
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Hienrick Tiencken 36 born Hanover -British subject occ costume manufacturer
Elizabeth E. Tiencken 34
Hermmon H. Tiencken 11
Florence Tiencken 10
Alfred E. Tiencken 8
Elizabeth B. Tiencken 6
Alice M. Tiencken 4
Archibald H. Tiencken

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 487; Folio: 52; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341107.

Susan

Susan Report 7 Feb 2014 18:24

I've found this family before Shirley, can't find any connection to my TIencken's though. Must be a common name in Germany. Carol Appleyard is my sister, and I do have access to her Ancestry site. Like me she can't find George Tiencken after 1893. But all these answers to my question have spurred me on and I'll keep digging.

Thank-you

Susan

Susan Report 8 Feb 2014 12:12

I wonder about his age re the assault Shirley - will have to research this a little better when I have time. Thanks for pointing it out to me.