Genealogy Chat

Thanks Mike. You found it before me, must get a new pc this one is so slow, and not on broadband yet. Still the new kitchen must come first... JoJo

It's still sloooooooow on broadband tonight .....lol :0)))

Hi All Iam interested in the Timson, March, Tow and Storey families. I am currently trying to find any relatives of Walter Timson born Leicester in 1875 (my great uncle) who I believe married Ada Florendine in 1903. Also interested in finding out the relationship of Arthur Storey, a detective in the Leicestershire police force in the 1950's, to the Timson family.

Hi All, Does anybody know of any problems regarding membership renewals for LRFHS. I have tried to renew my membership on-line (from Australia) twice now over the past 6 weeks and also attempted to purchase a DVD. Both times went through with no errors but no ackknowledgements. My credit card has not been cherged. I tried e-mailling the Membership Secretary a week ago but no response. Also couldn't resist this, but my 3rd cousin 6 times removed, Robert Screaton, was the Registrar at Wigston in 1870's and I have his signature as Registrar on several family certificates. Paul

Hi Maggie and Jane Had a look in the book doesnot mention either of those names (think yours is too far in the future Jane) there was a bakers at 31 Gladstone street,72 Milton street these are down as bakers but they could of sold other things to....there was also a Calverts bakery in Russell square think was was a big one as it says it was a sight to behold watching the women early in the morning going to Calverts with tins under there arms ...they were allowed to use the ovens at a price to cook there dinners...lol...(Ihave sent you an email Jane about the Daft lady we might of originated in Loughborough but i have to confirm my findings)Maggie there was a hebalist at 6 Camden street, 168 Upper George street fever powder manufacturer and Beaumonts drug store corner of Wharf street and Upper George street next door to the to the fever powder man ....there are no dates next to these addresses which are in the appendix at the backof the book but have reread the part with the shops in to see if your names pop up but they dont sorry. warm regards Donna

Hi all Just been given some info on someone in my tree who i have not yet looked at ...they would of been married pre 1917 as that is when there only child was born...they were apparently strict catholics....what church do you think they could of been married in as i havent any other catholics in the family and am stuck at where to begin....thanks in advance Donna

Donna, Thanks for looking. Maggie

Jane, Your man is at 102 Wharf Street in www(.)historicaldirectories(.)org in 1880. Will pm you as the message board would do no good for the web address!! Maggie

Hi Maggie I have another book in which there is a picture of tiles outside a High street chemist and a advertisement at the side of it the chemist is called T. E BUTLER,SON AND CO. Thomas Butler had a patent for a seabreeze medicine and their factory was in Carts Lane ...unfortunately there is no date but mentions victorian decoration on the tiles outside the shop....the book is from the library and is called Leicester A Pictorial History by Malcolm Elliot...could this be one of your Butlers warm regards Donna

Greeting’s & Welcome Ken..... You may already have this .... But could this be your Walter & Family on the 1881. Census. ? RG 11 / 3162 / 9 / Pages 17 ~18. Leicester. St. Margaret’s Parish. No. 49. Flint Street. John Timson. Head. Mar. 37. Frame Work Knitter. Hannah. Wife. 35. Sarah. Dau. 15. Hosiery Mender. Alfred. Son. 12. Scholar. Emma. Dau. 10. Ditto. Arthur. Son. 7. Ditto. WALTER. Son. 5. Ditto. All Transcribed as born in ' Lester” ? ..... = Leicester. Going on the date of the eldest Child & Christian names This could be the Marriage of Walter’s Parents ? And gives you the next generation back ? St. Margaret's Parish Church Leicester. Entry No.248, JUL 11, 1864, after Banns JOHN TIMSON, 21, Bachelor. FWK, of MARGARET St, s. of WILLIAM TIMSON, FWK HANNAH ELIZA YATES, 19, Spinster. of MARGARET St, d. of JOHN YATES, WOOL COMBER Wits: HIRAM RICHARDS, SARAH ANN RICHARDS. F.W.K. = Frame Work Knitter. MIKE.

Greeting's Again Donna...... If you have documentation on the birth of this only child It might give you an idea of the Area of Leicester.... Then we can have an Educated guess for the Church. PAUL....... From the your details it sounds like that the Secretary is on Holiday ( Which happens often ) And so the transaction as not been processed yet..... Like wise the on line purchase has not been passed on to the Bookshop ? .... MIKE.

Hi Mike I have telephoned my mum to ask her brother for a tin that was left by this only child ....could be full of treasure or rubbish but hopefully there might be a birth cert and names in the right order and dates as all i have got at the moment is the surname Grant (would of been my mums step dad but are her 3 younger siblings father,he and my mums mum never married my mums dad did a runner after having my mum and her 5 other siblings) The name is John James Grant born 25th november 1917...his mum was Lucy Florence Grant and her husband was William Grant (or John William ) all i know is that Lucy died either aged 39 or in 1939...but i cant find anything ...so am waiting patiently to see whats in the box...lol...sounds like a game show. will let you know when i find anything else out . warm regards Donna

Hi I'm looking for any GILBERTs in the area, particularly SAMUEL ELLIS GILBERT and his father ELLIS, from the late 1800's to early 1900's.(my paternal family name) The Christian name ELLIS was common for the GILBERTS which is weird because without knowing this, we named our son Ellis! Cheers Allie

Greeting's & Welcome Allie... I'm not sure with out approx dates of births or the Area for your Ellis & Samuel..... But I've tracked these :- 1851. Census.( No. 1. Dover Street Leicester. ) Ellis Gilbert aged 4. Born Leicester Parents John.....Servant / Coahman. born Hallaton Leicestershire. Mary. Born Markfield . Leicestershire. 1861. Census...Same as above for 1871. Census ( Croydon. Surrey.) Ellis Gilbert. 25. Clicker. born Leicester. With Wife Amy 25. & Family including Samuel aged 5. Born Leicester. 1881. Census Same details as above 1891. Census Croydon. Ellis. 45. WIDOW. Clicker. born Leicester. Daughter Florence born Croydon Surrey. Both in Lodging's No sign of Samuel.on this Census.... MIKE.

Donna, Thanks for that!! I have a hunch that T E Butler the chemist is a cousin to my John Butler - Super Mike has been on the trail for me!! At the moment it's all circumstantial: There are a lot of Thomas's and Edwards in my branch of Butlers; There are chemists in both branches of Butlers; Thomas Edward's father was a Thomas - my John was fathered by a Henry - and it looks like Thomas Butler and a Henry Butler might have been in the boot and shoe business together in Cank Street. My John died young (age 34) in 1834 - Thomas Edward (born 1820) didn't have his own business until after that (he was made a freeman of the city in about 1844). My hunch is that Thomas Edward went to work with his cousin John, and that when John died and his widow Jane (nee Hollins - also a boot and shoe family) remarried a man called Thomas Snaith, Thomas Edward branched out on his own. It may all be a very fanciful story - but what I know so far fits that theory!! Thanks for the tip about the book - will have to get myself to a library!! Maggie

Hi it’s me again – back after a long period of lurking and still trying to unravel my mystery. 1881 Census for 2 Greaves Place Hunslet Yorks gives the following: William H Chapman 32 H Shoemaker Market Harborough Annie E Chapman 30 W Shoemaker wife Nottingham William Chapman 9 S Scholar Leicester Joseph Chapman 8 S Scholar Leicester Mary Ann Whitworth 4 V Scholar Leicester It was thanks to Mike that I finally found this. I believe the boys to be my great grandfather (William) and his brother. The visitor is definitely their cousin and their sister was with the cousin’s family in Leicester on census night. Annie (nee Bodycote, formerly Goadby) is about the right age and although she is otherwise consistent that she was born in Leicester, her sister Mary Ann (Whitworth) certainly thought from time to time that she was born in Nottingham. However I have a marriage certificate which shows that at Leeds register Office on January 20th 1881 Annie Goadby aged 32, widow, married William Smith aged 35, shoe finisher. Both gave their addresses as Cardigan Street Leeds. I know this is the right certificate because her father’s name (Charles Bodycote FWK) is correct. It didn’t last long because on December 23rd 1883 Annie Smith aged 35, widow, married Samuel Riley aged 36, widower, trimmer at St Matthews. She gave her address as the family home at 2 Denmark Street Leicester and he gave his as 77 Palmerston Street. Samuel Riley is a known quantity – his father was the turnkey at Leicester Gaol. What I am looking for is some idea of what has happened here and how the family come to be under the wrong name on the census. William Chapman doesn’t appear to exist and I have had no luck so far identifying William Smith. Anybody got any ideas?

' Anybody got any ideas? '.....Yes pass the PROZAC.lol :0) Sheilia... Does the Surname....' Freeman ' Feature in your Family Tree ? Only there is an Annie Riley aged 45.Single. Head. with a Carrie Freeman ( Neice) living with her in St. Mary's Nottingham on the 1891. Census. Unfortunately the Census paper is damaged and only the left hand side of the returns is left to view So not all details available re;_ Birth place :- RG 12. / 2694 / 144 / Page. 59. Thinking aloud now..... Jan. 81. Annie marries William Smith. William goes off to fight in the 1st.Boar War (1880~81.) and is killed. Annie remarries... April 81. ( Census night ) is living as Mrs Chapman.( see your post ) William also goes off to fight in the Boar War and is also killed ... Annie remarries again to Samuel Riley 1883. 91. Census. Annie now aged 45. living with her Neice Carrie Freeman. MIKE.

Maggie, Thanks for that link.... wondered why i'd been sent a pg of gobbledygook, all makes sense now, thanks. Donna, thanks for looking hun, hope to hear from you soon, lol Jane x

Hi Mike, Thanks for that, I just have to be patient and wait! Paul

re GILBERT Hi Mike and thanks! The info is brilliant and these must be my family - you have tied up alot of loose ends for me. Cheers and thanks so much Allie