Genealogy Chat

Think you could probably do the above on freebmd not all areas are up to date but its a very good site to try
Karrie

I do love a good ending
and this thread being 10 years old gives others hope in there research

Shelly xxx

Ann and ArgyllGran - Claire has asked me to thank you on her behalf for your posts.

Ann I have sent you private message on this site.

Gillian

Ann -

The report is here, if either you or Claire wants to order a copy:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C3756290

Hi Ann,

Welcome to the boards.

Claire's thread was posted in 2004 and she might not be checking her thread any more.

If you click on her board name Bluesavannah then you will be able to send her a private messages. If Claire hasn't changed her email address then she will receive notification of your message from GR.

In your message let Claire now that if she is no longer a member then she can still reply to your message without having to take out a subscription to GR.

Hope you can make contact with Claire and good luck with your research.

Kind regards
Gai :-)

Hi bluesavannah

Not sure if you are still searching but he was my uncle.

Hi Joan, Im thinking the Sheffield Library will be the best option as well. I emailed the Sheffield Star newspaper earlier and they have just responded to say they have no records but i cant be specific on the year as my nan cant remember that. She seems to think he committed the crime after his dad died and ive found his death in 1969. Means more likely to be early 70's this happened. If this guy that Wizz has found is him, he cant have spent that long in jail as nan remembers he came out before he died. Thankfully, he isnt my blood line either. Regards, Claire

Hi Zoe, That is a good idea also, will see if my nan can remember what his wife was called and then look for a child or children. Best Regards Claire

Just a thought - which may or may not be less time consuming or perhaps give you a rough date. if it WAS his own child then couldn't you find his marriage in the GRO which would give you a wifes names and then find a birth for an Eastwood child with matching mothers names and from theri look for the death. Obviously - if you need to do this on 1837 it may take some time and money but if you have access to the gRO on fiche at a library it might be easier than trawling through years and years of newspapers. It might also be worth calling your local records office or the archive that holds local papers your after and seeing if they have an index of the names that appear in the paper and whether they could do a quick check for the name your wanting. Zoe

Hi Brenda and Wizz, From what my nan said to my aunt, she seems to think this child was his own child but its something that i will have to look into. I think it is going to end up with me going to the Sheffield Library sometime and going through all the local newspapers. Thank you Wizz for the info on Ronalds birth and death, that is very much appreciated. His parents were married in 1930 so this is very likely to be him. Best Regards to you all, Claire

Hi Claire,just did a bit f research for you,not much really.RONALD EASTWOOD Born Sheffield 31 Aug 1935,d Sept 1991.Hope this helps at all. WIZZ

Hi Claire There will be lots of people around who will remember this event, and for the child's family it will not seem as if it happened over thirty years ago. You don't know who the child was. It could be a family member and asking questions could be distressing for your family and yourself. Think of the publicity surrounding the Moors Murders and the grief and bitterness of the parents of those children. Please be very careful. Brenda

Hi Siobhan, I dont know the name of the child at the moment. My nan has only just remembered that her cousin murdered the child, lol. Will keep pressing her i think for more info. That is a very good idea about getting the childs death cert if can find them, will look at that option is nan can remember the childs name. Regards, Claire

Hi Claire. If you know the name of the child and around about the date the child died. I would almost definately order the death certificate. It will tell you if an inquest was held. Which is almost definate if the child was murdered. Also then once you have the district the death was registered in. You can then go to the records office of the district to look at the inquest and then look at the local papers for around about that date. No doubt there would of been a trial and this would of been covered. hope the above helps, regards, Siobhan

Hi, this site is good but unfortunately it mainly covers murders in the 1800's and very early 1900's. Regards, Claire

Ha Ha Just realised they don't allow the WORD D*O*T either previous message should have read anything with * a* d*o*t* followed by Christine

Hi The site won't allow you to print anything with a dot followed by anyword starting with CO. the way round it is to put * between the dot and CO eg www.genesconnected.*co.uk Christine

Will do Sue, thank, Claire

Thanks for the Geoff, something else for me to bear in mind. Ive tried both of these websites and i cant get the murderersearch one and the other one is for the USA. Ive sent an email to the Sheffield Star newspaper to see if they hold any info on this at all. Im googling away for other websites that could help me. Regards, Claire

There were two categories of murder, some received a life sentence, some a death sentence. The "serious" murders were: killing a policeman, using a gun or poison, killing more than once; there were possibly more things that came into this category. Whether a murder was premeditated or not was a factor. Killing someone "while the balance of mind was disturbed" (or in present-day terms "diminished responsibility") would probably incur a conviction for manslaughter.