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Trying to find the Death of 'Dales Goodman '.

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Craig

Craig Report 30 Jul 2003 15:44

Can anyone help with how to locate a death that does not appear in the St. Catherines Index please. Dales Goodman appears on 1881/1891 census but by 1901 census has vanished. His wife and children are listed but I've searched for a death up to 1940 but can't find him. He was born in Lincoln circa 1847, married Alice Ann Bullock in Burnley 1879, and lived in Nelson, Lancashire till he vanished after 1891. I'm new to this family-tree malarky and its giving me headache. PLEASE-HELP!

Unknown

Unknown Report 30 Jul 2003 16:12

Sorry can't find his death; all I know from my Burnley/Nelson index is that he wasn't in that area in 1896.

Craig

Craig Report 20 Oct 2013 12:07

I can only think he was in the Boer War and that is why he's vanished, but I cannot find any records to actually prove this :/

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Oct 2013 12:19

but he would be too old surely to be in the Boar war ?? he was 43 on the 1891 census

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 20 Oct 2013 12:21

Alice Ann (Bullock) Goodman remarried as a widow in 1896

Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 about Alice Ann Goodman
Name: Alice Ann Goodman
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1850
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Feb 1896
Parish: Burnley, St Peter
Spouse: Wallace Newton
Spouse Age: 47
Father: Christopher Bullock
Spouse Father: William Newton
Reference Number: Pr 3342/1/9

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Oct 2013 12:24

Did he witness any of the marriages of his children ?

Who was the informant on the death cert of his wife?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Oct 2013 12:25

Good spot Detective

Potty

Potty Report 20 Oct 2013 12:26

To help cut down the search period, Alice Ann remarried in 1896:

Name:Alice Ann Goodman - Widow
Age:46
Birth Year: abt 1850
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:22 Feb 1896
Parish:Burnley, St Peter
Spouse:Wallace Newton
Spouse Age:47
Father:Christopher Bullock
Spouse Father:William Newton
Reference Number:Pr 3342/1/

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Oct 2013 12:28

Dates for the 2 Boer Wars would suggest he did not serve then

Potty

Potty Report 20 Oct 2013 12:36

I wonder why Alice has reverted to Goodman in 1901?

Alice A Goodman widow
Age:51
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1850
Relation:Head
Gender:Female

Where born:Goldshaw B, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Higham
Ecclesiastical parish:Fence in Pendle St Anne

Alice A Goodman 51
Alfred Bullock 28
George Bullock 22

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Oct 2013 12:46

perhaps she left him !!

COLNE PETTY SESSIONS.
Wife.—Dales Goodman, a painter, Nelson, appeared in custody. eha._r with assaulting Alice Goodman, his wife.—Complainant said he struck her with his fist and threatened kill her.—Defendant in reply said she had provoked him it, and said she was the habit of getting goods on credit h he gave her sufficient money to run the household. case dismissed, they were told to get on with each other peacefully
Burnley Express
North West, England
25/12/1880

Potty

Potty Report 20 Oct 2013 12:49

Can't find the death of Alice's second husband, Wallace Newton, either and she seems to have married again in 1907:


Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)

BOOTHMAN Abraham Burnley 8e 446 Scan available - click to view
GOODMAN Alice Ann Burnley 8e 446 Scan available - click to view
MUNRO Thomas Burnley 8e 446 Scan available - click to view
THOMPSON Sissie Mahala Burnley 8e 446

Edit: the Lancsbmd version gives her Bullock name as well.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Oct 2013 12:52

George Bullock too on the 1901 is George Dales Goodman b c1879

Edit became a postman

British Postal Service Appointment Books, 1737-1969 about Geo Dales Goodman
Name: Geo Dales Goodman
Date Appointed: Nov 1900
Place Appointed: Fence To Roughlee

Margee

Margee Report 20 Oct 2013 13:20

He's on a tree here but no death given. Note a son died in California.

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/i/m/Craig-D-Simpson/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0084.html

Edit: Actually son Henry's death in California is under surname Bullock:

BULLOCK HENRY C 11/21/1874 BULLOCK M SAN DIEGO(80) 07/20/1968 071-12-3672 93 yrs

From this site:


http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi

Margee

Margee Report 20 Oct 2013 13:39

Son Henry was a Canadian soldier in WW1. He was born 21 Nov. 1874, Burnley, Lancashire. His home address was 58 Park St., Fall River, Massachusetts. NOK was wife Mary. Enlisted 23 Sep. 1918.