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George Gregory born 1813 Hampshire.

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Sylvia

Sylvia Report 30 Nov 2008 15:11

I Know George'd D.O.B. I think his parents were George and Sophia Gregory of Steep but where did they come from? Did George marry the Emily Edwin with whom he lived in Petersfield certainly from 1851 onwards and perhaps earlier until his death c 189? and was George the father of Emily's two illegitimate daughters Emma and Sarah.George gave his birth place as Sheet but the George born to George and Sophia was Steep. Only just across the main road oiutside Petersfield.Any suggestions.Thanks

Rosie

Rosie Report 30 Nov 2008 16:48

Hi Sylvia,

Found Marriage for a George Gregory & Emily Edwin

Page-Item: 71-213
Date: 14 Oct 1834
G Names: George
G SURNAMES: GREGORY
G Notes: Bch of Sheet
G Father/Occ:
B Names: Emily
B SURNAMES: EDWIN
B Notes: Spin of Sheet
B Father/Occ:
Method: Bns
Witnesses: Newland Edwin & Jane Stansden

Source: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~buriton/PetMarriages-G.htm

George's Birth & Bapt 1812 appears on this site aswell.

Rosie

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 17:22

For reference:-
1851
Name: George Gregory
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheet, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheet
Town: Sheet
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Occupation: looks like - Sawyer

Registration district: Catherington
Sub registration district: Horndean
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Edwin 86 - Father in Law
born: Solesberry, Buckinghamshire
Emily Gregory 44 born: Chichester, Sussex
George Gregory 38
Batharst Hannah 10 Visitor
born: Steep, Hampshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 17:38

1891
Name: George Gregory
Age: 81
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheet, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Petersfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Petersfield
Town: Petersfield
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Petersfield
Sub registration district: Petersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Gregory 81
Emily Gregory 87 born: Waterbeach, Hampshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 17:41

1861
Name: George Gregory
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Shees, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Petersfield
Town: Petersfield
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Occupation: Ag. Lab.

Registration district: Petersfield
Sub registration district: Petersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Gregory 35 born: Chichester, Sussex
George Gregory 47
Alfred Oliver 6 - Grandson
born: Chelsea, Middlesex
William Oliver 3 - Grandson
born: London, Middlesex

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 17:47

1871
Name: George Gregory
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Street, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Petersfield
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Occupation: Sawyer

Registration district: Petersfield
Sub registration district: Petersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Gregory 67 born: Goodwood, Sussex
George Gregory 65
Mary Moules 94 - Head
born: Droxford, Hampshire
Arthur Oliver 10 - Grandson - born: Chelsea

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 17:51

1881
Name: George Gregory
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheet, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Petersfield
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address: Chapel Sreet
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Sawyer Unemployed

Registration district: Petersfield
Sub registration district: Petersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Gregory 77
George Gregory 74
Charles E. Oliver 9 - Grandson
born: Marylebone, Middlesex
Harold E. Oliver 6 - Grandson
born: Marylebone, Middlesex

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 17:53

Death for Emily:-
Deaths Dec 1891
GREGORY Emily 87 Petersfield 2c 95

Death for George:-
Deaths Dec 1899 (>99%)
Gregory George 90 Petersfield 2c 110

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 18:05

Emily's father was Francis (see 1851 census) so this is a possible birth for Emily:-

EMILY EDWIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 MAR 1806 Boxgrove, Sussex, England
Father: FRANCIS EDWIN
Mother: MARTHA

possible siblings - all children with same parents names:-

MARTHA EDWIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 MAR 1814 Tangmere, Sussex, England

FRANCIS HENRY EDWIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 JAN 1812 Tangmere, Sussex, England

MARY EDWIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 JUL 1808 Eastdean Near Chichester, Sussex, England

NEWLAND EDWIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 MAY 1810 Tangmere, Sussex, England


Possible marriage for this couple:-
FRANCIS EDWIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 25 AUG 1805 Upwaltham, Sussex, England
Spouse: MARTHA MARTIN

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2008 18:11

Note:-

Newland Edwin born 1810 - witness at marriage between George and Emily!!

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 1 Dec 2008 14:04

Thank you very much Catherine. That answered a lot of my questions . Emily and George were obviously married two years after the birth of Emma. Perhaps one day I shall find out where she was and how she came to have two illegitimate daughters before she married George. It would be nice to know her story.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 1 Dec 2008 14:08

Rosebud Many thanks for the information about Emily and George's marriage. I have made a note of that web site. I am learning all the time but have a long way to go.Emily had a daughter Emma and she was the great grandmother of my late husband. The family wanated me to find out their roots if I could. Hence my interest. Thanks again. Sylvia

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Dec 2008 14:45

This looks like the parents of Emily in 1841:-

Name: Francis Edwin
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1766
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Liss
Hundred: Finch Dean (Lower Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Occupation: Ind.

Registration district: Petersfield
Sub registration district: Petersfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Edwin 75
Martha Edwin 60

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Dec 2008 14:59

I'm having trouble finding them in 1841 census!
When and where, were Emma and Sarah born?

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 1 Dec 2008 16:32

I have found the marriage of George and Emily

14 October 1834 at Petersfield
George GREGORY
Emily EDWIN

And Georges' baptism
13 Nov 1812-George GREGORY s George & Sophia at Petersfield (born 22 October)

There were 5 George Gregory's baptised between 1810 and 1812!!

He was the only one at Petersfield and with George and Sophia as parents

These are the only 2 children baptised as EDWIN
10 Nov 1827-Sarah Jane d Emily singlewoman at Liss
19 Jun 1831-Edwin s Emily baseborn at Liss

There are none baptised as Gregory

(Info from the Hampshire Marriage Index 1754-1837 and Baptism Index 1752-1841)

Does not include Isle of Wight or Non Comfromists

Sheet was not a seperate parish (from Petersfield) until 1869 when it's own registers start

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 2 Dec 2008 12:36

Thanks again. I found Emma aged 8 and her sister Sarah aged 10 living with an Edwin family at Ropers Hill. Breedon Leics. There was a Francis there at the same time. but not Emily's father . I have been told he was in Liss in 1841 with Martha but haven't been able to find them . The whole family seem to be in the habit of leaving the children with other relations .I know Emily and George looked after the Oliver boys at different times.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 2 Dec 2008 12:43

Elizabeth. Thanks for your help did Emily really have another offspring out of wedlock. I have not seen any reference to Edwin b 19 june 1831 before. I suspect he died in infancy as Francis mentions his two illegitimate grand-daughters in his will(I have been told) but no mention of an Edwin.I have followed Emma through to her death in 1911.Have a photo of her and always she gives her year of birth as 1832. Thanks for the help

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Dec 2008 17:44

Sylvia, if you look on the first page I have posted the 1841 census with Francis and Martha.


Sylvia

Sylvia Report 3 Dec 2008 13:04

Catherine, Yes Thanks I did note what you wrote gratefully. At the time I posted my message I hadn't managed to find them myself.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 5 Dec 2008 15:20

Catherine , Perhaps you would advise me please because I do not know the usual procedure. Should I close this line now since everyone has been so helpful or do I leave it for others to use ? Do I start another search for George , father of the George in this correspondence Could you give me some guidance please. Sylvia.