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julie

julie Report 19 Feb 2011 20:12

i am trying to find information on the surname of my great grandmother annie c1873 she was married to leonard simmonite born 1855 they had a few children 1 being mygrandmother lilian thornhill nee simmonite1899 but her sister was edna stevens 1909 my aunt has said that annie had quite a few partners-husbands and lilian wouldnt talk about any relatives would like annies maiden name so that i could try to trace her all from sheffield
thanks

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 Feb 2011 20:25

This is possible, but a birth cert for one of the children might be best:

Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
Clarke John Richardson Sheffield 9c 1056
Dickinson Mary Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 1056
Morton Annie Sheffield 9c 1056
Simonite Leonard Sheffield 9c 1056

tempest

tempest Report 19 Feb 2011 20:28

hmm, this census record also seems to match Leonard and Annie

1911 census
Address: 18 Joiner Lane Sheffield

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

SIMONITE, Leonard Head Married M 56 1855 Fitters Labourer Sheffield Yorks
SIMONITE, Annie Wife Married 11 years F 38 1873 Sheffield Yorks
SIMONITE, Albert Son M 9 1902 School Sheffield Yorks
SIMONITE, Annie Daughter F 6 1905 School Sheffield Yorks
SIMONITE, Nellie Daughter F 4 1907 School Sheffield Yorks
SIMONITE, Leonard Son M 1 1910 Sheffield Yorks

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 Feb 2011 20:39

What do you mean Julie?

"will have to try and source marriage cert for leonard as census doesnt give it"

You are right, no MMN shown before 1912.

jan

tempest

tempest Report 19 Feb 2011 20:41

this 1901 census may be the family found by Lindsey on 1911

Address: 85, St Johns Road, Sheffield

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where Born

SIMMONITE, George T Head Married M 33 1868 Iron Moulder Sheffield Yorkshire
SIMMONITE, Annie Wife Married F 28 1873 Chesterfield Derbyshire
SIMMONITE, George Son Single M 6 1895 Sheffield Yorkshire
SIMMONITE, Florence Daughter Single F 4 1897 Sheffield Yorkshire
SIMMONITE, Lillian Daughter Single F 1 1900 Sheffield Yorkshire

chrisa

chrisa Report 19 Feb 2011 20:53

Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
Bell Eliza Sheffield 9c 976
KIDDER Fred Sheffield 9c 976
>>>>>Simmonite Annie Thompson Sheffield 9c 976
>>>>>>STEVENS Samuel Sheffield 9c 976

Dea

Dea Report 19 Feb 2011 20:54

Julie,

Birth certs always give the mothers maiden name - birth references do not give it until around 1911 onwards.

I think you are a little confused re this ?

Dea x

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 19 Feb 2011 20:54

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
///////////////////////// Andrew Annie Sheffield 9c 664
Simmonite George Thompson Sheffield 9c 664
Simmonite William Sheffield 9c 664
Taylor Annie Eliza Sheffield 9c 664

chrisa

chrisa Report 19 Feb 2011 20:58

1901 England Census
about Annie Simmonite
Name: Annie Simmonite
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Leonard Simmonite
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Wicker Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: East Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 195
Household Members:
Name Age
Leonard Simmonite 46
Annie Simmonite 28
Florence Simmonite 1

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 19 Feb 2011 21:01

STEVENS, Samuel Head Married M 38 1873 Table Knife Hafter Sheffield York VIEW
STEVENS, Annie Wife Married
7 years F 37 1874 Home Chesterfield Derbys VIEW
STEVENS, Samuel Son M 8 1903 School Sheffield Yorks VIEW
STEVENS, Annie Daughter F 6 1905 School Sheffield Yorks VIEW
STEVENS, Ada Daughter F 14 1897 Sheffield Yorks VIEW
SIMMONITE, George Stepson Single M 16 1895 Table Kinife Hafter Sheffield Yorks VIEW
SIMMONITE, Florence S Daughter F 14 1897 Errand Girl Sheffield Yorks VIEW
SIMMONITE, Lilian S Daughter F 11 1900 School Sheffield Yorks VIEW
>>>>>ANDREW, Fanny M In Law Widow F 62 1849 Char Woman Bramp Broughton Derby VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27861 Reference:
RG14PN27861 RG78PN1594 RD510 SD1 ED13 SN15

Registration District:
Sheffield Sub District:
South Sheffield Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Sheffield

Address:
52 Earl ST

julie

julie Report 19 Feb 2011 21:03

hi all
think youve all done brill will look up all the info and try to match it up
thanks for the help all
julie

Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2011 22:25

Julie

Perhaps you don't realise that you are able to look for births, marriages and deaths on the following FREE site...........................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Censuses don't give you that info........a census is a record of who slept overnight at any given address on one specified night in the year in question.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 19 Feb 2011 22:28

very tempted by this


1881 England Census about Thomas Andrew
Name: Thomas Andrew
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nancy Andrew
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Holmesfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: Moorwood
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farmer Of 102 Acres
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Dronfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Andrew 32
>>>>>>>>>>>>Nancy Andrew 30 can be fanny or ann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ann Andrew 6
Catherine Andrew 3
Thomas Andrew 1
William Robinson 57
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Record

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Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2011 22:43

Is this your grandmother's death?

Name: Lilian Thornhill
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1899
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1991
Age at death (estimated): 91
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1091


Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2011 22:46

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Simmonite Lilian Sheffield 9c 563
Simmonite Lilian Thompson Sheffield 9c 564

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Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Simmonite Lilian 1 Sheffield 9c 360


The only surviving one is the child of GEORGE

Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2011 22:47

What was Mr Thornhill's first name?

I have traced three births in Sheffield for Thornhill with MMN Simmonite, but have failed to find a marriage..............

julie

julie Report 20 Feb 2011 01:19

hi flick
that was grandmas birth and death1999 (lilian simmonite) married to thomas henry thornhill my gramdad dont know what the thompson bit is unless annie was married before or that is her maiden name

Flick

Flick Report 20 Feb 2011 09:07

I think you've missed my point, Julie............

Lilian Thompson Simmonite was the daughter of GEORGE Thompson Simmonite..............and Annie Andrew

NOT Leonard.

Where did you get the name Leonard name from?

There is no child name Lilian recorded on 1901 or 1911 censuses for Leonard and family.

There is, however, a Lilian in the family in 1911 which is headed by STEVENS...a name you say is also relevant for Annie

Flick

Flick Report 20 Feb 2011 09:13

Is this your grandfather?

Name: Thomas Henry Thornhill
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1986
Age at death (estimated): 88
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1080
_______________________________________________

Name: Thomas Henry Thornhill
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Sheffield
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 493


Success.....found a marriage

Name: Thomas H Thornhill
Spouse Surname: Simmonite
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration district: Bccolesall B
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1019
Find Spouse: Lilina**


**Mistranscribed, which explains why I couldn't find it before, looking for Lilian.

I would strongly advise that you get the marriage cert, for confirmation of Lilian's father's details

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 20 Feb 2011 12:08

Hi Julie ,surely the Thompson is from his name ?##

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
///////////////////////// Andrew Annie Sheffield 9c 664
Simmonite George Thompson Sheffield 9c 664