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1871 welsh census

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Allan

Allan Report 16 Jul 2014 00:03

I am extending my research on the Evans family and keen to find the Welsh 1871 census for

Robert William Evans
b 1849 Llanllechid Caernarvonshire
wifes name Catherine.

Kind Regards
Allan P :-S

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Jul 2014 00:17

Looks like him? Occ quarryman


1871 Wales Census about Robert W Evans
Name: Robert W Evans
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Cathrine Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanllechid, Caernarfonshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanllechid
Ecclesiastical parish: Glanogwen
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Llanllechid
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 5734
Folio: 14
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert W Evans 22
Cathrine Evans 26

Allan

Allan Report 16 Jul 2014 00:19

Thank you Myatt for the 1871 census information. Hopefully I can further my research. Cheers Allan P

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Jul 2014 11:13

Name: Robert Evans
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Male
Age: 13
Relationship to Head of Household: Son In Law
Birthplace: Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Bangor
Sub-District: 3 Llanllechid
Parish: Llanllechid
Residence County: Caernarvonshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Jul 2014 11:13

Name: Robert W Evans
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Bangor
Sub-District: Llanllechid
Parish: Llanllechid
County: Carnarvonshire
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Robert W Evans Self M 22 Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire
Cathrine Evans Wife F 26 Llandurag, Caernarvonshire

Allan

Allan Report 16 Jul 2014 23:31

Thank you AnnCardiff for the 1861 and 1871 census for Robert W Evans b 1849. I have viewed the census and again I feel that I have came to a dead end.
The link to my
Robert William Evans
b 1875 North Wales (from certs and census)
a coal miner
is that his father name is
Robert Evans a farmer (marriage cert)
I have tried unsuccessfully to locate R W Evans b1875 in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census. I have R W Evans in the 1911 census living and working at Senghenyyd. Robert W Evans b 1875 died in the 1913 Senghenyyd Mine Disaster.

Kind regards and Thank you Allan P

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Jul 2014 11:44

Have you considered this one? I know the names are reversed (if the middle name on census is Robert!), but father is a farmer and the location is right.

I am assuming all along that you do not have a birth cert for Robert William. What are the witness names on the marriage cert?

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
Evans Robert William Bangor 11b 503


1881 Wales Census
Name: William R. Evans
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robt. Evans
Mother's name: Mary Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanllechid
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Brynonen
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Llanllechid

Robt. Evans 52
Mary Evans 48
Robert R. Evans 19
Richd. Evans 18
Samuel Evans 15
Margt. Evans 10
Benjamin Evans 8
William R. Evans 4

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Jul 2014 11:56

Just checking - you haven't go another thread about this I assume!

If you wish, might be an idea to put what evidence you have already, including 1911 census and details of marriage.

I assume this isn't him!!


1911 Wales Census
Name: Robert Evans
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Eglwysilan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 26 High St Senghenydd
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Haulier Below Surface
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan

Robert Evans 37
Margaret Evans 36
Margaret E Evans 14
Gladys Evans 10
David J Evans 6
Oliver Davies 28

Jan

Allan

Allan Report 17 Jul 2014 23:38

Thank you bummiejan for your help with my Robert William Evans b 1875 North Wales. I have previously listed my query on R W Evans and his family and I am absolutely positive of my research and the only thread I am unable to find is his birth entry and parents details.
I don't have R W Evans birth cert but his 1911 census is listed below.

R W Evans was living at 26 Stanley Street Senghenydd In the 1911 census
Robert is listed as 38 years being born North Wales can speak English and Welsh and is a coal miner.
His wife is
Emma b 1872 Ystrad Glamorgan
Kate Margaret b 1906 Ystrad Glamorgan
James Evans b 1908 Ystrad Glamorgan.

The witnesses on the marriage of Robert William Evans to Emma Hughes on 11th September 1907 are George Williams and Richard J Ford. The marriage was solemnized at the Registry Office at Pontypridd. Robert was living at Llanbradach and Emma at Abertridwr.

I have extensively research Emmas Evans family who was married three times (Lloyd,Hughes, Evans). Emma Evans maiden name is Coleman. I have located the divorce papers for Emma to her first husband David Walter Lloyd. Emma then married Edwin Hughes at Chirk Denbighshire. Edwin died in July 1897. Emma gave birth to a daughter Elsie May Hughes in November 1897. The relationship of Emma and Robert William Evans appears in the indexes in Nov 1905 with the birth of their daughter Katie Margaret Evans. I feel because of the divorce Emma and Robert Evans did not marry until 1907. The divorce was annulled in 1902.

Cheers Allan P

Allan

Allan Report 17 Jul 2014 23:44

Hi brummiejan, Yes I have thought of Robert William Evans being listed as William Robert Evans but have not researched those names as yet.

Interestingly Robert Evans is listed as William Robert Evans and William Evans on the certs of his first two children then the name to Robert William Evans for all other certs.

Cheers Allan P

Allan

Allan Report 19 Jul 2014 02:49

Hi,
If possible can someone help me with the 1891and 1901 census for
William R Evans b 1877 Llanllechid Caernarvonshire
parents names
Robert Evans b 1829 Llanllechid Caernarvonshire
wife Mary b 1933 Llanllchid Caernarvonshire.
Siblings Robert E Evans,
Richard Evans
Samuel Evans
Margaret Evans
Benjamin Evans
all born Llanllechid Caernarvonshire.

Cheers Allan P

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 Jul 2014 11:25

Allan, I assume this is the family from 1871 as posted above?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 Jul 2014 11:30

Looks like the siblings. Richard ad benjamin are farmers. William however is a 'telegraphist'. which doesn't match with your William.:

1891 Wales Census
Name: William R Evans
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethesda, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llansadwrn
Ecclesiastical parish: Llansadwrn
County/Island: Anglesey
Country: Wales

Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Beaumaris

Richard Evans 27
Samuel Evans 24
Margaret Evans 20
Benjamin Evans 18
William R Evans 14
Catherine Jones 27
William Williams 20
Thomas Owen 16
John Hughes 21

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 Jul 2014 11:45

This looks like the William above, who is now a miner. I can't see this family 1911 as yet in order to exclude him.

1901 England Census
Name: William Evans
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Sarah Evans
Birth Place: Bethesda, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Whitehaven
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Whitehaven
County/Island: Cumberland

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub-registration district: Whitehaven

William Evans 27
Sarah Evans 26
Elizth Evans 6
Wm Evans 4
Robt Evans 2
Evan Evans 6 Months

Allan

Allan Report 20 Jul 2014 08:51

Thank you brummiejan for your help with the census.

I don't believe that the census match with my Robert W Evans.
I will print out the names of all births of Robert W Evans bc1875 North Wales and then check the census to see if I can eliminate the Evans surnames that don't belong. If I don't find a match then I will do the same for William Robert Evans.

It is time to become serious instead of pulling at straws.
Cheers and thank you once again for your help Allan P