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Struggling with this supposed branch of family.

Would anyone who has info on the following and their offspring, please let me know?

It would be particularly helpful if any trace of the children in the family could be found and to know whether John Linge had children by a first marriage.

John Linge, b 1848 Mayland, Essex
Elizabeth Linge, b 1861 Mundon, Essex
John W Linge, b 1877 North England
Phebe Linge, b 1884 Althorne Essex
Robert Linge, b 1887 Althorne Essex
Sidney Linge, b 1890 Hawkwell, Essex
daughter Linge b 1891 Hawkwell, Essex

Many thanks to all who've helped previously.

Joyce

LINGE, John Head Married
33 years M 62 1849 Day Labourer Essex Mayland VIEW
LINGE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 51 1860 Munder Nr Malden VIEW
LINGE, Milly Daughter Single F 18 1893 Domestic Servant Barling Nr Southend on Sea VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10171 Reference:
RG14PN10171 RG78PN534 RD195 SD3 ED2 SN119

Registration District:
Rochford Sub District:
Great Wakering Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Great Wakering

Address:
Olbury Cottage Southchurch Southend on Sea

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Name: Alfred Batt
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1905
Registration district: Rochford
Registration county (inferred): Essex
Volume Number: 4a

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Alfred Batt Oct-Nov-Dec 1905 Oct-Nov-Dec Rochford Essex
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Herbert Fincham Oct-Nov-Dec 1905 Oct-Nov-Dec Chelmsford Essex
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Minnie Koch Oct-Nov-Dec 1905 Oct-Nov-Dec Rochford Essex
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Phoebe Linge Oct-Nov-Dec 1905 Oct-Nov-Dec Rochford Essex
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William Isaac Wallis Oct-Nov-Dec 1905 Oct-Nov-Dec Rochford Essex

1871 England Census about John Lings
Name: John Lings
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Lings
Gender: Male
Where born: Mayland, Essex, England
Civil parish: Steeple
Ecclesiastical parish: Dengie Essex and Rochester
Town: Stansgate
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Maldon
Sub-registration district: Southminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1671
Folio: 81
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lings 23
Sarah Lings 20 b Writtle
Esther J Lings 1

Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)

LINGE John Maldon 4a 287

Wallis Sarah Maldon 4a 287

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
LINGE John Maldon 4a 407
Thorogood Elizabeth Maldon 4a 407

BATT, Alfred Head Married M 31 1880 Brick Master And General Labour Wickham Heath Berkshire VIEW
BATT, Phoebe Wife Married
5 years F 27 1884 Hawthorne Essex VIEW
BATT, George Alfred John Son M 2 1909 Binfield Berkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6668 Reference:
RG14PN6668 RG78PN331 RD124 SD1 ED2 SN104

Registration District:
Easthampstead Sub District:
Bracknell Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Binfield

Address:
Amen Corner Binfield

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Name: Sidney Linge
Spouse Surname: Cowell
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1924
Registration district: Rochford
Registration county (inferred): Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1514

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Sidney Linge Cowell Apr-May-Jun 1924 Rochford Essex

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)

LINGE Esther Jane Rochford 4a 794
Wade Ernest James Rochford 4a 794

WADE, Ernest James Husband Married M 38 1873 Brewers Collerman Stambridge Essex VIEW
WADE, Esther Jane Wife Married F 40 1871 Steeple Essex VIEW
WADE, Mabel Esther Daughter Married F 13 1898 School Southend on Sea Essex VIEW
WADE, Grace Edith Daughter F 11 1900 School Southend on Sea Essex VIEW
WADE, Alfred John Son M 9 1902 School Southend on Sea Essex VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10141 Reference:
RG14PN10141 RG78PN533A RD195 SD2 ED29 SN300

Registration District:
Rochford Sub District:
Prittlewell Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Prittlewell

Address:
22 Lambert St Southend on Sea

1901 England Census about Sidney Linge
Name: Sidney Linge
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Linge
Mother's name: Elizabeth Linge
Gender: Male
Where born: Hawkwell, Essex, England
Civil parish: Barling
Ecclesiastical parish: Barling All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Great Wakering
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 1685
Folio: 42
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
John Linge 52
Elizabeth Linge 40
Sidney Linge 11
Muly Linge 8
Herbert Linge 6
Alfred Linge 6 Months
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elizabeth thorogood
1871
1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Thorogood
Name: Elizabeth Thorogood
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Thorogood
Mother's name: Emma Thorogood
Gender: Female
Where born: Mundon, Essex, England
Civil parish: Purleigh
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Maldon
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 1673
Folio: 128
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Thorogood 37
Emma Thorogood 31
Elizabeth Thorogood 9
Arthur Saml Thorogood 7
Emily Thorogood 5
Charles Thorogood 3
James Thorogood 10 Months

sara wallis
1861
Name: Sarah Wallis
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Wallis
Gender: Female
Where born: Writtle, Essex, England

Civil parish: Writtle
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chelmsford
Sub-registration district: Writtle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 1080
Folio: 58
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wallis 44
John Wallis 16
Benjamin Wallis 14
Sarah Wallis 11

1851
1851 England Census
about Sarah Ann Wallis
Name: Sarah Ann Wallis
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Wallis
Mother's name: Mary Ann Wallis
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Writtle, Essex, England

Civil parish: Writtle
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Chelmsford
Sub-registration district: Writtle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 1776
Folio: 22
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wallis 34
Mary Ann Wallis 32
John Wallis 7
Benjamin Wallis 4
Sarah Ann Wallis 2
Henry Barnard

henry barnard is a nephew

Many thanks for Linge/Lings/Linjie info. This is a process of elimination for cousins and me because of a suspected name change.

We now know John Linge (b 1848 Mayland Essex) married
Sarah Wallis (b c1851). She was his first wife.

It appears that John and Sarah Lings (note surname slightly altered) in the 1871 Census had one child:

Esther J Lings b Steeple, Essex in c1870.

From the 1881 census it is obvious that they had more children and at some stage (1872 to 1875) they had moved to the north of England presumably with Esther and with Sarah (b 1872 in Steeple)

After Sarah snr died in 1878, it looks as though John Linge returned to Essex and married Elizabeth Thorogood close to the 1881 Census because they are listed along with three children at Althorne, Essex. These children are not Elizabeth's.

Sarah (b Steple c1872)

Alice (b Staindrop, Durham c1875)

W John (b Staindrop c1877)

(Esther b 1870 had disappeared - she would have been about 11 so was she with grandparents? If not, where was she as she was still alive because her marriage to Ernest James Wade is recorded in Rochford, Essex in December 1896.)

In the 1891 census it was clear that John and Elizabeth had at least four children of their own (Phebe, Robert, Sidney, and a daughter b 1891). In this Census, also living with them was John W Linge (age 14, working as an agricultural labourer - this would be John and Sarah Linge's son.

John W Linge born c1877 may be our grandfather (name changed to Ernest William Lee (b Evenwood, Auckland, Durham c 1876) according to his 1904 marriage certificate. We have no proof of a change of names but this may be why we cannot find any further record of John W Linge. Our suspicions regarding the name change arose because we can't trace Ernest William Lee b Evenwood (which is near Staindrop) and a cousing had a copy birth certificate for John W Linge - but she has forgotten where this certificate came from.

What we hope is that a descendant of John W Linge's siblings (Esther, Sarah) or his half-siblings (Phebe, Robert, Sidney, Muly, Herbert, Alfred) has some knowledge of the family history and whether John William Linge changed his name to Ernest William Lee. If so, the answer to 'Why?' would be the icing on the cake!

We continue our search but thank you for confirming what info our cousin held and giving us extra info on top of that. It's very helpful.