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Daisy Dodd born Nov 1893 Enfield, Middx and Violet born 1899 were with their parents in Edmonton on 1901 Census, when the mother died in 1902 all the children went their own ways.

Despite searching for a long time and asking for help they seem to have completely disappeared.

Violet could have been adopted and her name changed but I think Daisy woud have been too old to do that. I wonder therefore if they emigrated ,I belong to Ancestry but do not have worldwide access and have looked at Find my Past emigration but with no luck.

Does anyone have access to any records where they could look these two up.

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Thanks

Lesley

Hi,
Have they been found in 1911 census ,there are a couple that could fit either girl in birth years,maybe they were with relatives?

Hi Lesley,
Is this them and have you found the rest of the children?

1901 census transcription details for: 12, Sandale Road, Edmonton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1261 Folio: 30 Page: 50


Reg. District: Edmonton Sub District: Edmonton
Parish: Edmonton Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns Upper Edmonton City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 12, Sandale Road, Edmonton
County: Middlesex
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DODD, John Head Married M 43 1858 Baker (Journeyman)
Leatherhead
Surrey

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DODD, Annie Wife Married F 39 1862
Stevenage
Hertfordshire
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All children born Enfield Middlesex

DODD, Elsie Daughter Single F 13 1888
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DODD, Tyrell Son Single M 12 1889
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DODD, Percy Son Single M 10 1891
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DODD, Archie Son Single M 9 1892
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DODD, Daisy Daughter Single F 7 1894
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DODD, Mable Daughter Single F 6 1895
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DODD, Albert Son Single M 4 1897
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DODD, Ethel Daughter Single F 3 1898
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DODD, Violet Daughter Single F 2 1899
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DODD, Winnifred Daughter Single F 0 (7 MOS) 1901
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Hi Kath,

I have looked on the 1911 Census but when I looked at the transcript they had not been born in Enfield/Edmonton and were named as daughter (their father John was living with another relative on the Census with neither child there) I did find their sister Winifred as Winnie Dod (one d )with a relative. If you could give me a reference I could look again.

Thanks

This looks like all the childrens births all in Edmonton, Middlesex most of them with middle names which might make them easier to find!

Elsie Mary Dodd 1887 Jul-Aug-Sep
Lewin Tyrell M Dodd 1888 Jul-Aug-Sep
Percy Charles Dodd 1890 Jul-Aug-Sep
Archie Dodd 1892 Jan-Feb-Mar
Daisy Dodd 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec
Mabel Ellen Dodd 1895 Apr-May-Jun
Albert Edward Dodd 1896 Oct-Nov-Dec
Ethel Emily Dodd 1897 Oct-Nov-Dec
Violet Gladys Dodd 1899 Jan-Feb-Mar
Winifred Frances Dodd 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec

Possible deaths:

Name: Levin Tyrell M Dodd
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1888
Death Registration Month/Year: 1970
Registration district: Haringey
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1983

Name: Annie Oliva Dodd
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 38
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 331 (click to see others on page)

Name: John Joseph L Dodd
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 360 (click to see others on page
Name: Annie Oliver Thody
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 360 (click to see others on page)

Name: Anne Oliver Thody
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hitchin
County: Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 246 (click to see others on page)

Name: Anne Thody
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Where born: Stevenage, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Stevenage
Town: Stevenage
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Thody 46
Emily Thody 47
Emily Thody 20
Robert Thody 18
Charles Thody 15
Patty Thody 13
Lizzey Thody 11
Ellen Thody 9
Anne Thody 8

Hi everyone

Thanks, you have all been so busy, John died in 1926, son Lewin Tyrell was informant. Tyrell married a Jessie Phillpot they both lived and died in Tottenham no children.

Percy, Albert and Archie were sent to Canada as "Home Children",( I am in touch with a grandson who didn't know about the other siblings) and Elsie went over 10 years later.

Ethel was adopted by weathly spinsters and lived a happy life in Surrey - unlike the poor boys who went to Canada, through her Will I found Mable who had a new Christian name also adopted and lived in Cornwall.

So I am just missing the three girls which I would love to do as neither Tyrell or Ethel had children.

Thanks again.

Could this be a possible marriage for Violet?

Name: Violet Dodd
Spouse Surname: Plant
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 661
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Hi Cathy,

Thanks for the marriage suggestion I thought I had aready sent for this but with a reference check for father John it was not sent to me, but could not remember

Interestingly enough there is a marriage for Elizabeth Dodd to Frank Plant 1921 which I could look at on the Metropolitian Archives on Ancestry (Violet's marriage in 1922 is too late for these records) and this give father's name as Andrew. I then checked on 1911 Census and there are sisters Violet and Elizabeth living with father Andrew. So it seems Elizabeth and Violet sisters both married Plant brothers.

At least by some research I have not wasted more money now £9.25.