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Gail

Gail Report 21 Jun 2010 15:39

Hi I am trying to find any info on family surmnames of Juden or Shroll from the Battersea , Lambeth or Wandsworth areas of London . Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 21 Jun 2010 17:58

1911:
SHROLL, Charles Head Married 19 years M 46 1865 Blacksmiths Hammerman Somersetsheir Bath
SHROLL, Emily Jane Wife Married F 35 1876 London Batttersea
SHROLL, Lizzie Emily Ane Daughter Single F 18 1893 Domestic Servant London Batttersea
SHROLL, Ellen Daughter Single F 16 1895 Confectioners Packer London Batttersea
SHROLL, Fredrick Son Single M 11 1900 School London Batttersea
SHROLL, Charles Son Single M 9 1902 School London Batttersea
SHROLL, Joepoh Son Single M 6 1905 School London Batttersea
SHROLL, John Son Single M 1 1910 London Batttersea
RG number: RG14 Piece: 2157 Reference: RG14PN2157 RG78PN74 RD26 SD1 ED14 SN318 Registration District: Wandsworth Sub District: East Battersea Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Battersea Address: 21 Sheepcote Lane Battersea County: London

1911
JUDEN, William Charles Head Married M 51 1860 Bacon Dryer Lambeth
JUDEN, Ellen Wife Married 32 years F 50 1861 Lambeth
JUDEN, William Charles Son Single M 24 1887 Labourer Brewer's Lambeth
JUDEN, Violet Daughter Single F 17 1894 Box Maker Cardboard Lambeth
JUDEN, Rosetta Minnie Daughter F 14 1897 Lambeth
JUDEN, Hilda Florence Daughter F 11 1900 Lambeth
RG number: RG14 Piece: 2029 Reference: RG14PN2029 RG78PN71 RD25 SD3 ED23 SN43 Registration District: Lambeth Sub District: Stockwell Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Lambeth Address: 32 Lingham St Stockwell S W County: London

Could you be more precise as to what you have found out and what you want to find out?
Thanks

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:15

1881

Sarah JUDEN Head W Female 53 St Pancras, Middlesex, England No Occupation
Jane JUDEN Dau U Female 28 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Laundress
Harriett JUDEN Dau U Female 26 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Dressmaker
Charles JUDEN Son U Male 19 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Carpenter
Edwin MARGRIN Lodger U Male 20 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Blacksmith
John BENNETT Lodger U Male 47 Crantock, Cornwall, England Pensioner


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Source Information:
Dwelling No 32 Wye Street
Census Place Battersea, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341148
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0642 / 61
Page Number 3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:15


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CHARLES JUDEN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 16 OCT 1831 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM JUDEN Family
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:16

CHARLES JAUDIN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 25 JUL 1805

Christening: 18 AUG 1805 Saint Giles Cripplegate, London, London, England
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Parents:
Father: EDWD JAUDIN Family
Mother: DIANA
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:17

William SHROLL Head M Male 28 Lambeth, Surrey, England Boiler Maker
Harriett SHROLL Wife M Female 28 Lambeth, Surrey, England
Marie SHROLL Daur Female 4 Lambeth, Surrey, England
Infant SHROLL Daur Female 1 m Lambeth, Surrey, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 16 Gloster St
Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341139
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0604 / 54
Page Number 47

1881

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:18

1881

Frederick SHROLL Head M Male 48 Mortlake, Surrey, England Attendant (Lunatic)
Sarah SHROLL Wife M Female 44 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Sarah A. SHROLL Daur U Female 19 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant
Minnie SHROLL Daur U Female 14 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
William SHROLL Son U Male 12 Hillingdon, Middlesex, England Scholar
Annie SHROLL Daur U Female 9 Hillingdon, Middlesex, England Scholar
Fredk. SHROLL Son U Male 5 Hillingdon, Middlesex, England Scholar
Evelyn SHROLL Daur U Female 1 Hanwell, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Green Lane 4 Sunnyside
Census Place Hanwell, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341329
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1356 / 63
Page Number 4

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:19

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
1. KATHEREN JEWDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 16 FEB 1605 Ideford, Devon, England

2. CATHERINE JUDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 11 FEB 1719 Warminghurst, Sussex, England

3. KATE PRISCILLA BROAENS JUDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 29 JUL 1860 Birdham, Sussex, England

4. KATE MARY JANE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 26 JAN 1870 St Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England

5. KATE PRISCILLA BRODRIB JUDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Marriage: 30 OCT 1880 Saint Peter, Brighton, Sussex, England

6. Kate Juden - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 27 APR 1884 Washington, Sussex, England

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 6

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:21

THOMAS JUDEN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 NOV 1599 Saint Margaret, Westminster, London, England
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Parents:
Father: THOMAS JUDEN Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:21

THOMAS JUDEN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 16 AUG 1829 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM JUDEN Family
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:23

1881

Richard SHROLL Head M Male 50 Bristol, Gloucester, England Engine Smith
Maria SHROLL Wife M Female 50 Southwark, Surrey, England
Richard SHROLL Head M Male 33 Lambeth, Surrey, England Engineer Machinist
Eliza SHROLL Wife M Female 34 Poplar, Middlesex, England
Annie SHROLL Daur Female 8 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar
Jane SHROLL Daur Female 6 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar
Richard SHROLL Son Male 3 Lambeth, Surrey, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Wheatsheaf Lane 5 Vittoria Cottages
Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341139
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0605 / 45
Page Number 20

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jun 2010 18:25

This most interesting surname is of early medieval English origin, and has two possible sources. Firstly, the surname may be from an assimilated form of Jordan, which is a baptismal name taken from the name of the river Jordan (which derives from the Hebrew "Yarden", from "yarad", to go down, descend (to the Dead Sea). At the time of the Crusades it was common practice for crusaders and pilgrims to bring back flask of water from the river, in which John the Baptist, had baptized people, including Christ Himself, and to use it in the christening of their own children. Thus Jordan became quite a popular given name in commemoration of this. Secondly, the surname may be from the male given name Jude, with the diminutive suffix "en"; hence, "little Jude". Jude is an abbreviated form of the Hebrew "Judah", the name of a son of Jacob. The name was occasionally used in medieval England, either from the name of the Apostle Jude, sometimes called Judas, or through the popularity of the story of Judas Maccabaeus. Nicholas Jurdan, Walter Judden and William Judden are listed in the 1332 Subsidy Rolls of Warwickshire. In the modern idiom the surname can be found as Judi, Jaudin, Juddin, Judden and Juden. Recordings of the surname from London Church Registers include: the christening of John, son of John Juden, on October 11th 1584, at St. Margaret's, Westminster, and the marriage of John Juden and Elizabeth Garland at St. Olave's, Southwark, on June 3rd 1795. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Adam Judden, which was dated 1327, in the "Subsidy Rolls of Worcestershire", during the reign of King Edward 11, known as "Edward the Confessor", 1307 - 1327. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Juden#ixzz0rVejhG3N

Gail

Gail Report 28 Jun 2010 11:09

Thank you to all who have sent replies to my request they have been a great help , I am new to this so apologies for any gaffes I may make , am stuck at the moment on info on John Juden I believe was born around 1806 and was married to Mary know its a long shot not much info afraid but grateful for any assistance or where to look for details on this one , once again many Thanks to all . Regards Gail

patchem

patchem Report 28 Jun 2010 18:29

Gail,
Have you got John and Mary in any of the censuses, and what relatives have you definitely found (to connect to you?)
It would have been helpful if you had said what you wanted at the start, so we do not find information that you already know.
Thanks

Gail

Gail Report 1 Jul 2010 11:00

Patricia , I haven't managed to get John or Mary in any census , found out that they were my great great grandad john juden's parents , he was born 1829 and died 1875 he married a Sarah Rundle , relations from them down to present day I am doing okay on , also from the info in the replies I got back recently from some of the other members which I am very grateful for it's just finding out where John and mary were born and any other info on them that I'm getting stuck with may have to send for some certificates on them . Many thanks for your Assistance Gail

Gail

Gail Report 1 Jul 2010 15:23

just found Mary , her maiden name was Dunbar born in surrey in 1806.

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jul 2010 18:03

John, 1829, with Mother Mary in 1841?:
1841 England Census
John Juden Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Chelsea Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Chelsea South
Mary Juden 35
Mary Wale 20
James Juden 15
John Juden 12
Susan Juden 10
Eliza Juden 8
William Juden 7
Emily Juden 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 688; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Chelsea; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 12; Page: 18; Line: 15; GSU roll: 438804.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Jul 2010 18:13

JOHN JUDEN Pedigree
Male Family

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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH GARLAND Family
Marriage: 03 JUN 1795 Saint Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Jul 2010 18:14


JOHN JUDEN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1584 Saint Margaret, Westminster, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN JUDEN Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Jul 2010 18:15


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Husband's Name
John JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-MS) Pedigree

Born: 1700 Place: England

Father: Stephen JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-KG) Family
Mother: MARY (AFN:LFMH-LM)

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Wife's Name
Sarah WHITBREAD (AFN:LFMH-93) Pedigree

Born: 1704 Place: England

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M Stephen JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-B8) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1720 Place:

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2. Sex Name
F Ann JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-CF) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1722 Place:

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3. Sex Name
F Sarah JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-DL) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1724 Place:

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4. Sex Name
F Elizabeth JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-FR) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1726 Place:

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5. Sex Name
F Mary JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-GX) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1728 Place:

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6. Sex Name
F Hannah JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-H4) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1730 Place:

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7. Sex Name
M John JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-J9) Pedigree

Born: 1732 Place: