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Is Elizabeth Rhead the sister of John Henry Rhead

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Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 18:10

Hi, I have a Simeon Pepper burried with my g.g.g.grandad William James Humphreys1859-29/6/1937 died age 79 and my g.g.grandad Allen Humphreys 1890-30/5/1954 died age 64.
Allen Humphreys married Alice Rhead in 1913 Newscatle Staffordshire..I have recieved information about an Elizabeth Rhead marrying a Thomas Pepper Wigan 1899. I am thinking she could be the sister of Alices father John Rhead 1862 which would make her Alices aunty. Simeon would then be Alices cousin?? anybody give me any information on Elizabeth Rhead please?

Nicola

Mary

Mary Report 25 Mar 2010 18:21

Is this him Simeon born Burslem Staff 1862 died 1937 .

Maryb

Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 18:29

hi Mary,my Simeon was born in 1863 and in 1871 he was living High Lane and his mother and father were Issac and Sarah? in 1881 he was boarding at cross Heath with a family called the Shentons?
I recieved information on a marriage of Elizabeth Rhead marrying a Thomas Pepper 1899. Im thinking she could be the sister of Alice Rheads father John Rhead 1862? This then would explain why Simeon is burried with them..

Nicola

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Mar 2010 18:39

1871 England Census
about John Read
Name: John Read
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Newcastle Under Lyme
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Address: >>>>>>>>>>17 Gallow Tree Lane
Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Sub-registration district: Newcastle under Lyme
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Read 40 >>>>>>>>>>Widow
William Read 26
Elizabeth Read 17
Martha Read 13
John Read 9
Richard Read 7


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Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2833; Folio: 34; Page: 11; GSU roll: 836373

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Mar 2010 18:41

1881 England Census
about John H. Rhead
Name: John H. Rhead
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Newcastle Under Lyme
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Cross St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Sub-registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Rhead 60
William Rhead 35
John H. Rhead 19
Richard Rhead 16
Charles N. Taplin 4


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Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2700; Folio: 23; Page: 37; GSU roll: 1341647

Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 19:03

liverbird1 in the 1871 census the Rhead is spelt wrong (Read) there is an Elizabeth but i ahve worked out that her birth date was 1858 and my John Rheads birth bate is 1862. There age gap is not the same?
1881 cencus seems right but there is no Elizabeth is there? I have saved all the information you have given me..thank you!

Mary

Mary Report 25 Mar 2010 19:07

1861 census has Elizabeth T Rhead 1854 dad Richard.

This Richard is John H Rheads dad.

Elizabeth T Rhead 1854 the T is taylor.

Richard Rhead born 1820 in Knutton married martha Whittington born 1827.

Maryb

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Mar 2010 19:07

can't find them in 1901 though??

Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 19:19

so is Martha Whittington Elizabeths and Johns mother?

Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 19:34

Any information on Johns sister Elizabeth T Rhead 1854??

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Mar 2010 19:43

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth T Rhead
Name: Elizabeth T Rhead
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Newcastle Under Lyme
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Sub-registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Rhead 41
Martha Rhead 34
William Rhead 14
Thomas T Rhead 11
Elizabeth T Rhead 6
Martha A Rhead 3
Sarah Rowley 18


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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1916; Folio: 40; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542887

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Elizabeth Taylor in Gardner Family Tree
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Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 19:47

thank you liverbird1..is this the Elizabeth Rhead that married Thomas Pepper in 1899?

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Mar 2010 19:49

To be absolutly certain you'd have to get the marriage cert and cross check the father's name.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Mar 2010 19:53

Births Jun 1854 (99%)
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RHEAD Elizabeth Taylor Newcastle L 6b 51



Also found this

Name: Elizabeth Taylor Rhead
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1854
Christening Date: 17 Sep 1854
Christening Place: Newcastle-Under-Lyne, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Richard Rhead
Mother's Name: Martha

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Name: Thomas Taylor Rhead
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1851
Christening Date: 20 Apr 1851
Christening Place: Newcastle-Under-Lyne, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Richard Rhead
Mother's Name: Martha

Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 20:25

ok thank you liverbird1 i will try and get her marriage cert..would you be able to give me any information on william Humphreys 1859-29/6/1937 died age79 his occupation was a gardner and he married a Clara A. They had 6children William,Alfred, Alfred E, Allen, Clara E and Nellie. I know that in 1091 they lived at 45 Wilson st newcastle-Under-lyme and in 1911 they lived at 23 Enderly st Newcastle-Under-Lyme..any information on him??

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Mar 2010 21:02

1891 England Census
about William Humphrey
Name: William Humphrey
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Clara
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Newcastle Under Lyme
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Newcastle Under Lyme
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wilson St

Occupation:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gardener

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Sub-registration district: Newcastle under Lyme
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Humphrey 33
Clara Humphrey 31
Edith E Humphrey 9
William Humphrey 8
Alfred Humphrey 6
Albert E Humphrey 3
Allen Humphrey 1


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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2148; Folio 101; Page 29; GSU roll: 6097258.


The only poss birth I could find ??

Births Sep 1857 (96%)
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Humphrey William Newport Pagnell 3a 418


Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 21:25

i dont think that is my william humphreys birth? he was born 1859 died 29/6/1937 age 79 burried at newcastle-under-lyme staffordshire..the 1891 census is right...

Nicola Anne

Nicola Anne Report 25 Mar 2010 21:44

any more information??