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Trying to find out if Alice sewell was formerly an Alice Winder who married John Sewell and had Peter Singleton Sewell as one of their sons,or if she was an Alice Singleton.They were maried around 1847 ish

where did this happen?

Groom's Name: John Sewell
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Alice Singleton
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 25 May 1851
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancaster, England
Groom's Father's Name: John Sewell
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Pete Singleton
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01091-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1656375
Reference Number: It 1 p 125
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Hi,
around garstang area of lancashire.
pete

Hi.
Have the same info about Liverpool marriage but also an Alice Winder married a John Sewell in Garstang in 1847 and garstang is much closer than Liverpool to their area .can,t work out which one is correct.
Thanks

I should think the Singleton one is definately yours as why would they call a child Singleton Sewell if her maiden name was Winder???? You foten get the mothers maiden name as a second name and sometimes if the child was born out of wedlock the child is called Singleton Something.

Yes I take your point but I can't understand the distance to Liverpool when they ciould marry locally

Are these their children from you research so far? Ormskirk is not that far from Liverpool.

Baptisms: 8 Jan 1854 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Peter Singleton Sewell - Child of John Sewell & Alice
Abode: Ormskirk
Occupation: Whitesmith
Baptised by: Thos S Pepper, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1855, Page 429, Entry 3427
Source: LDS Film 1849665

Baptisms: 28 Nov 1858 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Thompson Sewell - Son of John Sewell & Alice
Abode: Ormskirk
Occupation: Whitesmith
Baptised by: H W Jones - Curate
Register: Baptisms 1855 - 1877, Page 81, Entry 648
Source: LDS Film 1849665

Baptisms: 8 Jul 1860 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Sarah Holmes Sewell - Daughter of John Sewell & Alice
Abode: Ormskirk
Occupation: Whitesmith
Baptised by: H W Jones - Curate
Register: Baptisms 1855 - 1877, Page 128, Entry 1024
Source: LDS Film 1849665

Baptisms: 20 Apr 1862 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Peter Singleton Sewell - Son of John Sewell & Alice
Abode: Ormskirk
Occupation: Whitesmith
Baptised by: J England
Register: Baptisms 1855 - 1877, Page 170, Entry 1360
Source: LDS Film 1849665

Yes,
these are the children I have too..

This Peter is a Cabiney Maker Journeyman.

1841 England Census
about Peter Singleton
Name: Peter Singleton
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ormskirk
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Ormskirk
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Singleton 40 Sarah Singleton 40
Nancy Singleton 13
Alice Singleton 12 1829 Lancs.<<<<<
Elizabeth Singleton 10
Peter Singleton 7
Mary Singleton 5
Sarah Singleton 4
Martha Singleton 2

I don't see how you could doubt that she's Alice Singleton when the first child was Peter Singleton Sewell and Alice's father was Peter.

yes this is the peter singleton I know as well,thanks

Marriage: 6 Jun 1847 St Helen, Garstang, Lancashire, England
John Sewell - 21 Mechanic Bachelor of Barnacre
Alice Winder - (X), 22 Rover Spinster of Catteral
Groom's Father: Joseph Sewell, Smith
Bride's Father: Thomas Winder, Labourer
Witness: Henry Crane; James Cumpsty
Married by: G. Simpson, Curate
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1856, Page 139, Entry 278
Source: LDS Film 1278886

Baptisms: 2 Feb 1848 St Helen, Garstang, Lancashire, England
Joseph Sewell - Son of John Sewell & Alice
Abode: Barnacre
Occupation: Mechanioc
Baptised by: G Simpson
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1862, Page 107, Entry 850
Source: LDS Film 1278942

Looks like their son, and the marriage safc has found has him as a widower, so possibly a 2nd marriage.

Added - no probably different people, father's name for John does not match.

Yes you are probably right about it being Alice Singleton,it was the close details of the Alice Winder/John Sewell marriage that caused me to doubt My first thoughts.

Yes I suppose it could be the same John with two marriages.Never went down that path.

Not sure why you've got the Garstang area in the earlier thread when the children were born Ormskirk? Garstang is near Preston, 40+ miles from Liverpool, Ormskirk is 13 miles out of Liverpool, but both are in Lancashire.

garstang came up when looking into john sewell's line and the marriage to Alice winder was in garstang

Anyway will pursue two marriage line.Thank you all for your help!
Pete

I think this explains why they baptised 2 children named Peter Singleton Sewell:

Burial: 13 Nov 1854 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Peter Singleton Sewell -
Age: Inft.
Abode: Ormskirk
Buried by: T.S. Pepper Curate
Register: Burials 1853 - 1869, Page 53, Entry 418
Source: LDS Film 1849649

Also a burial for William Thompson Sewell?

Burial: 28 Jun 1862 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Wm. T. Sewell -
Age: 3
Abode: Ormskirk
Buried by: A.C.Risk Curate
Register: Burials 1853 - 1869, Page 244, Entry 1946
Source: LDS Film 1849649

Peter Singleton was not on the 1861 census with mother Alice but William was, but he wasn't on the 1871 census with her. The other Peter Singleton baptised 1862 was with Alice on the 1871 census.

Looks like they had an older child John reg Q3/1852 (1861 census, and then I think a widow? on 1871) but his christening isn't on the Ormskirk parish registers.

Good luck
Mac