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The person im trying to trace is james allen born c1846 born i believe in st george, southwark. he married elizabeth sarah rumble around 1864 and they had 11 children. james was an upholsterer. i havent been able to find a link, but his last son was named leonard, and he also named his son leonard?? ive noticed that the first 5 children where named after elizabeths side of the family, as i already have her parents james rumble and sarah? and there children born lambeth surrey. i know Allen is a realy hard name to do, but im hoping somebody out there can work miracles
yours gratefully kim

Marriages Mar 1864 Kensington 1a 173

Allen James Patrick
Rumbol Elizabeth Sarah

thankyou, the name patrick might be a clue xx

Hi Kim,

A possible??

1861

ALLEN, James L Head Married M 38 1823 Occupation;Carman
Paulswarden
Hertfordshire VIEW
ALLEN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1830
Red Hill
Surrey VIEW
ALLEN, James Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Occupation;Carman
Southwark
Surrey VIEW

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I realise James later occupation was an upholstery, but you never know.

Dee x

Births Jun 1843

RUMBOL Elizabeth Sarah Lambeth 4 280

thankyou dee, i had found this one but its always nice when someone else thinks so too, i will look into it thanks again xx

thankyou sam

Possible

1861 England Census
about James A Allen
Name: James A Allen
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Southwark St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: St George Southwark
Sub registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Allen 52
Ann Allen 53
Emily Allen 19
James A Allen 15


Best to buy his marriage cert it will give you both father's names.

Sorry Kim,

found that family in 1871, James is at home, he is a porter, doesn't seem to be yours.

Dee x

ok dee thankyou anyway xx