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Sarah and Maria Bennett Chinley/ Bakewell ?

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Lesley

Lesley Report 20 Feb 2009 22:28

I have been trying to locate the siblings,if any, of Sarah Bennett b1833c chinley.She married James shatwell b1829 chapel en le frith in 1853.I have a full list of her children and all of the Shatwell family going back and forwards several generations
.The confusing issue to me is that when I had access to the Ancestory site , my notes say that ;

On the 1841 census I can only find Sarah Bennett b1834c, Derbyshire ,living in the parish of Bakewell with Maria Bennett b1835 Bakewell and Elizabeth Stubbs b1806.

On the 1851 census;Living in the parish of Bakewell.
Maria Bennett b1835, is now living with Elizabeth Bennett b1808(widow) and a visitor Edwin furniss( Widow) - but Sarah is now not with them.

On the 1851 census at a different address in the civil Parish Bowden Edge is;

Sarah Bennett b1833 Chinley
George Dixon b1850
Mary Dixon b1848
Nancy Dixon b1827
George Shalkrop b1787
James Shalwin b1830
Iv'e identified all the people on this address as being my ancestors.George shalwin is in fact george shallcross, Sarah's uncle. James Shalwin is in fact James Shatwell, Sarah's future husband.All the others are Sarah's cousins.
By the 1861 census, Sarah and James have already married in 1853 and started their own family.
My problem is that Maria Bennett b1835 has now disappeared.
I knew from the marriage certificate that Sarah's father was John Bennett, a farmer.Also I found a marriage on Ancestory between a John Bennett b1790c Derbys to Jane shallcross b1790c Derbys on 4th May 1812.
I also found that George Shallcross had 2 siblings;
John shallcross who married Elizabeth Bennett
Jane shallcross who married John Bennett.
This links all the names on the census except i can't account for Elizabeth Stubbs and maria Bennett.
I originally thought that Sarah and Maria must be sisters but that on different census you do sometimes find the birth place name changes.
That was until today! I had found a marriage for a Maria bennett in !859 and thought that it must be the Maria I was looking for.All the dates were seemingly correct!
The marriage certificate has arrived today and to my horro - it says her fathers name is William Bennett.Unfortunatly the occupation is hard to read but it definatly is not a farmer!
The info it gives is;15th Sept 1859 Maria Bennett, spinster age 25yrs of Bakewll at time of marriage.Father William Bennett.
She married Henry William Bacon age 26yrs Bachelor ,occupation Baker. of Bakewell at time of marriage.Father William Bacon, occupation Labourer.
The witnesses are noted as; Horatio ? and Sarah Ann Bennett.
This now puzzles me.the marriage cert. definately fits Maria bennett b1835 Bakewell.
But as no Sarah Bennett other than what i have noted, fits(except for parish born) it leaves me now wondering what conclusion to come up with! william the father was alive at the marriage in 1859 so elizabeth bennett widow on 1851 census could not have been HIS widow- could she? Can anyone shed any possble light on this please and where do you think Sarah Ann Bennett fits in?......... Help Please !!!!!!
Regards Lesley

Vicci

Vicci Report 21 Feb 2009 06:30

You've put a lot of info in and I've been able to go through it all yet.

few things you should bear in mind with the 1841 census

no relationships are given so you can't assume that Maria and Sarah are sisters, they may be cousins for instance.

ages are rounded by +/- 5 years

draw out your tree, and search on www.familysearch.org
could John and William Bennett be brothers?

Vicci

Vicci Report 21 Feb 2009 06:41

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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MARIA BENNETT Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 SEP 1834 Bakewell, Derby, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BENNETT Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C049631 1813 - 1872

Vicci

Vicci Report 21 Feb 2009 06:42

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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SARAH ANNE BENNETT Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 OCT 1833 Bakewell, Derby, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BENNETT Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C049631 1813 - 1872

MAYBE YOU HAVE 2 FAMILIES CONFUSED

Vicci

Vicci Report 21 Feb 2009 06:47

SARAH BENNETT Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JAMES SHATWELL Family
Marriage: 27 DEC 1853 Chapel En Le Frith, Derby, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M048515

Vicci

Vicci Report 21 Feb 2009 07:05

Name: Sarah Bennett
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1832
Age: 21
Father's Name: John Bennett
Spouse's Name: James Shatwell
Spouse's Age: 24
Spouse's Father's Name: James Shatwell
Marriage Date: 27 Dec 1853
Marriage Place: Chapel-En-Le-Frith, Derbyshire, England

Vicci

Vicci Report 21 Feb 2009 07:13

1851 sarah

Name: Sarah Bennett
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Chinley, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Bowden Edge
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Buxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Shalkrop 64
Nancy Dixon 24
Mary Dixon 3
George Dixon 11 Mo
Sarah Bennett 18
James Shalwin 21



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2151; Folio: 257; Page: 6; GSU

Vicci

Vicci Report 21 Feb 2009 07:26

1841 2 other options for Sarah



PreviewName: Sarah Bennett
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Female
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Hartington
Hundred: Wirksworth
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chapel en le Firth
Sub registration district: Buxton
Household Members: Name Age
John Bennett 30
Hannah Bennett 40
Sarah Bennett 11
John Bennett 7
Margaret Bennett 4
Edward Bennett 1


Sarah Bennett abt 1830 Derbyshire, England Hartington, Derbyshire


Name: Sarah Bennett
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Hartington
Hundred: Wirksworth
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chapel en le Firth
Sub registration district: Buxton
Household Members: Name Age
John Bennett 74
Sarah Bennett 70
Mary Bennett 40
Sarah Bennett 8



Sarah Bennett abt 1833 Derbyshire, England Hartington, Derbyshire