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Stephen
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12 Aug 2009 19:29 |
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I am looking for John George Walter Bennett born Fulham 1888 on the 1901 census......I think I have found him on the 1891 census but he is staying with his aunt.....can anyone help me find him on the 1901 census
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12 Aug 2009 19:45 |
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hi stephen im sorry i read your thread wrong will have another look for you
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Stephen
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21 Aug 2009 13:46 |
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I have got John George Walter Bennetts birth cert in the post today - he was born 1888 fulham (as we already knew) but extra information is - father John Bennett (bricklayer) mother Sarah jane Bennett maiden name Rayner..........so it looks like the census in this thread are not the correct ones - can anyone help please
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Barbara
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21 Aug 2009 15:04 |
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Think I found them:-
1891 census transcription details for: 108, St Katherines Road, Kensington National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 23 Folio: 21 Page: 37 Reg. District: Kensington Sub District: Kensington Town Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: St James Norlands Parish: Kensington City/Municipal Borough: Address: 108, St Katherines Road, Kensington County: London Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born BENNETT, John Head Married M 29 1862 Bricklayer Lisson Grove London BENNETT, Sarah Wife Married F 27 1864 Lisson Grove London BENNETT, Florence Daughter F 4 1887 Kensington London BENNETT, John Son M 1 1890 Kensington London BENNETT Son M 0 (3M) 1891 Kensington London
You will probably need to send for one of the other kids birth certs to be sure of mothers maiden name.
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Stephen
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21 Aug 2009 15:34 |
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thank you for your time barbara, that definately looks like them in 1891......I had obviously got it wrong when I said he was with his aunt this was my thoughts before the certificate arrived.....any ideas where they are in 1901?
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Stephen
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21 Aug 2009 17:14 |
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can anyone help me find this family in 1901 - I have been looking for hours and seemed to have tried every combination possible!
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Stephen
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21 Aug 2009 19:12 |
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nudge - I'm getting desperate now!!
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Stephen
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24 Aug 2009 19:30 |
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I have definately found John on 1891 census, staying with his grandparents (Sarah Rayners b1867 paddington parents) the family were living at 50 Clifton Street, Hammersmith. George Rayner was aged 52, occupation wheelwright. With him were: Martha aged 50, born Paddington Frederick, aged 18, born Shepherds Bush, Middlesex. Occupation carriage cleaner Joseph, aged 16, born Notting Hill, occupation van boy Edward, aged 14, born Notting Hill, occupation errand boy Louisa, aged 11, born Notting Hill Rosina, aged 9, born Notting Hill Ellen, aged 7, born Notting Hill John Bennett (grandson) aged 2, born Notting Hill.
So, do you think he could be on 2 census.......and where areJohn and Sarah Bennett + son John in 1901?
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LadyKira
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24 Aug 2009 22:28 |
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Births Mar 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENNETT Florence Daisy Kensington 1a 142
possible
1901 Address: 25, Hazelwood Crescent, Kensington WINSTONE, Henry Head Married M 29 1872 Gas Stoker Kensington London VIEW WINSTONE, Lucy Wife Married F 27 1874 Kensington London VIEW WINSTONE, Rose A Daughter F 3 1898 Kensington London VIEW WINSTONE, John H Son M 2 1899 Kensington London VIEW WINSTONE, Thomas Son M 0 (9 MOS) 1901 Kensington London VIEW BENNETT, Florence Servant Single F 14 1887 Domestic Kensington London
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Barbara
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25 Aug 2009 09:57 |
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It has happened in my family being on 2 census. Parents thought he was with them and grandparent said with them so perhaps they put him down as part of household but was not in fact there on the night.
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 10:24 |
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1901 Address: 67, Claredon Road, Kensington MACDONA, Henry W Head Married M 47 1854 Retired Accountant Australia Sydney N S W VIEW MACDONA, Florence C Wife Married F 47 1854 Brixton London VIEW KRALL, Anthony Boarder Single M 31 1870 Ladies Tailor Hungary(Hung Subjt) VIEW POYSER, Sydney H Boarder Single M 31 1870 Vocalist Sevarkstones Derbyshire VIEW ZIEROL, George Curt Boarder Single M 20 1881 Merchants Clerk Germany (German Subt) VIEW HORGER, Curt Ts H Boarder Single M 19 1882 Insurance Clerk Germany (German Subt) VIEW HVASLIP, Axel Boarder Single M 18 1883 Merchants Clerk Norway (Norwegian Subjt) VIEW DIXON, Mary L Visitor Single F 28 1873 Governess Bedford Bedfordshire VIEW LUPTON, Sarah Servant Single F 39 1862 Cook (Domestic) Elstree Hertfordshire VIEW BENNETT, Rose E Servant Single F 15 1886 Housemaid Domestic Notting Hill London
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 10:39 |
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1901 Address: 28, Crescent Street, Kensington CAIN, Andrew Head Married M 40 1861 Tinsmith Surrey VIEW CAIN, Lydia Wife Married F 39 1862 Marylebone VIEW BENSLEY, Henry Head Married M 59 1842 Wood Chopper Marylebone VIEW BENSLEY, Louise Wife Married F 50 1851 Plymouth VIEW PUDDEPHEN, Thomas Head Married M 32 1869 Licd Hawker Bristol VIEW PUDDEPHEN, Emily Wife Married F 28 1873 Bedford VIEW WOODGER, John Head Married M 34 1867 Carman Fulham VIEW WOODGER, Emily Wife Married F 30 1871 Lincolnshire VIEW HODGES, John Head Married M 50 1851 Agricul Laborer Oxford VIEW HODGES, Margaret Wife Married F 31 1870 Ireland VIEW BENNETT, Edwd Head Married M 28 1873 Flower Seller Notting Hill VIEW BENNETT, Alice Wife Married F 24 1877 Flower Seller Notting Hill VIEW ANDREWS, John Head Married M 27 1874 Licd Hawker Kensington VIEW ANDREWS, Alice Wife Married F 24 1877 Licd Hawker Kensington VIEW PARKER, John Head Married M 29 1872 Bath Chairman Notting Hill VIEW PARKER, Nellie Wife Married F 25 1876 Notting Hill
several possible marriages for edward and alice but only 2 in london area
Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bennett Edward Croydon 2a 656 DUFFY Alice Croydon 2a 656 EDWARDS William Croydon 2a 656 ROGERS Ann Croydon 2a 656
Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bennett Edward John Wandsworth 1d 1136 Dixey Philip Wandsworth 1d 1136 Eastwood Maud Ella Wandsworth 1d 1136 Elson Alice Eliza Wandsworth 1d 1136
The Wandsworth one most likely as neare in geographhy
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 10:48 |
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Is this the one you found in 1891?
Have you connected John and Elizabeth to the Bennets.? Is Elizabeth Sarah's sister or John's' sister?
They are living in a caravan and he is a hawker so possibly travellers?
Or is it the wrong one completely?
1891 Address: 1, Caravan Back Of Woodville Grove, Woodville Grove East, Tottenham THOMAS, John Head Married M 48 1843 Licensed Hawker Croydon Road VIEW THOMAS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 45 1846 Beckenham Sussex VIEW BENNETT, Henry Nephew M 5 1886 Fulham London VIEW BENNETT, John Nephew M 3 1888 Fulham London VIEW BENNETT, Elizabeth Niece F 0 (9M) 1891 Tottenham VIEW GUMBLE, Alice Niece Single F 14 1877 Smithfield London
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 10:53 |
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strange
I just searched for Henry in 1901 and result came up but it was empty. Can anyone see if it is the same on Ancestry.
1901 census - household transcription Person: BENNETT, Harry F Address: North End Road, Fulham Cost: You will be charged 3 credits for a transcript and 3 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. census search results 1901 address search redefine current search Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 61 Folio: 152 Page: 48 Registration District: Fulham Sub District: North-East Fulham EnumerationDistrict: 16 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Andrew Civil Parish: Fulham Municipal Borough: Address: North End Road, Fulham County: London
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 11:08 |
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hmmmm
just tried to find alice gumble 1901
no results so tried Alice born in Smithfield
several results but found this one.
1901 Address: 11, Gipsy Caravan Van Donovans Yard, Battersea HILDEN, Mark Head Married M 23 1878 Hawker Epsom Surrey VIEW HILDEN, Alice Wife Married F 23 1878 Hawker Smithfield Middlesex VIEW HILDEN, Thomas Son Single M 4 1897 Woolwich Kent VIEW HILDEN, John Son Single M 2 1899 Wandsworth Surrey
I looked for a marriage and came up with this
Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gumble Alice Hilden Wandsworth 1d 1296 Hilden Mark Gumble Wandsworth 1d 1296 Morrison George J Shechy Wandsworth 1d 1296 Nichols Percy J Collins Wandsworth 1d 1296
better late than never I suppose.
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 11:11 |
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1881 Address: 1, Caravan, Lower Richmond Rd, Putney GUMBLE, John Head Married M 24 1857 Travellers Not Known GUMBLE, Rachael Wife Married F 27 1854 Travellers Wandsworth Surrey GUMBLE, Alice Daughter Single F 4 1877 Travellers Holloway Middlesex GUMBLE, John Son Single M 6 1875 Travellers Battersea Surrey ALLABONE, Lizzie Visitor Single F 12 1869 Travellers Croydon Surrey
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 11:40 |
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1881 Address: 14, Western Terrace, Kensington BENNETT, Annie Head Widow F 46 1835 Cook Domes Eton Buckinghamshire BENNETT, John Son Single M 19 1862 Breaksman G H N Kensington Middlesex BENNETT, Henry Son Single M 17 1864 Tailor Kensington Middlesex BENNETT, George Son Single M 14 1867 Bakers Boy Kensington Middlesex
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LadyKira
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25 Aug 2009 11:47 |
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It id puzzling me I have been unable to find a bmd or census reference to confirm John George Walter Bennett
With such so many names would a sibling also have more names
I need you to come back to me before I search anymore.
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Stephen
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25 Aug 2009 12:11 |
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sorry Christine, I am not sure what you are asking me.........I know John George walter Bennett was born 4 Aug 1888 hammersmith, fulham. Parents John Bennett and Sarah Jane Rayner. I have followed Sarah Jane Rayners side so I am 101% sure that he is staying with the Rayners on the 1891 census that I posted. My problem now is once he was born John and Sarah Bennett seem to disappear. I was hoping to find them in 1891 or 1901 as I need to trace the Bennett line and have nothing to go on . Except John George Walter Bennetts father was John Bennett Bricklayer - he was alive when John George Walter Bennett married in 1912. He was also a bricklayer on John George Walter Bennetts BC in 1888. My other problem is that I do not know for sure if he had any siblings
On his BC his parents were both living at 69 Latymer Road, Hammersmith (the name of the road is really hard to read so may be wrong but definately is 69 Laty..er Road, hammersmith)
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Stephen
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25 Aug 2009 19:07 |
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for information.....for anyone helping me find John and Sarah Bennett in 1891 +1901 - sarah Bennett (nee rayner) was born c1867 paddington /kensington (depending which census you read - 1871 or 1881)
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