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Martyn

Martyn Report 12 Nov 2009 13:02

I am trying to find the marriage of John Brown b1847 in Exeter to Mary b1849 also in Exeter.
I would also like to find the marriage of James brown b1816 in Exeter to Mary b1811 in Exeter
Any help would be appreciated

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Nov 2009 13:06

Do you have Mary's maiden surname from the birth certificate of one of their children (assuming they had any)? Otherwise looking for a marriage between a John Brown and a Mary is needle and haystack stuff!

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 12 Nov 2009 13:07

FreeBMD is free and easy to use.

Also, if you find the families on all possible censuses you might spot a mother-in-law, niece or someone with them - which would help a bit.

Jill

Potty

Potty Report 12 Nov 2009 13:10

Have you found them on any census with children? With a common name like brown you really need to go back very carefully and a child's birth cert will give you Mary's maiden name.

There is only one possible John Brown marriage to a Mary in Exeter between 1865 and 1875 but this John could have married Isabella:

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)

Brown John Exeter 5b 163
Farley John Exeter 5b 163
Hunns Mary Ann Exeter 5b 163
Snow Isabella Exeter 5b 163

Martyn

Martyn Report 12 Nov 2009 13:12

No maiden name for either Mary I'm afraid but I do have the children's names:
Mary 1811
Mary 1830, Selina or Selma 1835, Susan 1837, Elizabeth 1838, Joseph 1841, John 1847 & james 1849.

Mary 1849 (Mary's middle name begins with A)
Richard 1867, William 1869, John 1871, Charles 1873, Joseph 1878, Harriet 1880, Olive 1883, Louisa 1885 & henry 1888

Potty

Potty Report 12 Nov 2009 13:22

Where were the children born? If you have the family on any census please could you give all the info?

Potty

Potty Report 12 Nov 2009 13:29

Is this the family in 1891 - all born Exeter:

1891 England Census
about Mary A Brown
Name: Mary A Brown
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: Exeter Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 45
Mary A Brown 42
William Brown 22
John G Brown 20
Charles H Brown 18
Johept C Brown 13
Harriett T Brown 10
Alice L Brown 8
Louisa M Brown 6
Henry E Brown 3


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Nov 2009 13:30

Possible birth for Richard - which makes the marriage Potty found a good possibility. Without buying the certificate though there's no certainty.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
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Brown Richard J Exeter 5b 81

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Nov 2009 13:32

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Brown John George Exeter 5b 96

Potty

Potty Report 12 Nov 2009 13:32

A possible baptism for Selina 1835:

SELINA BROWN Pedigree
29 MAR 1835 Saint Mary Steps, Exeter, Devon, England

Parents:
Father: JAMES BROWN Family
Mother: MARY ANN

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Nov 2009 13:35

Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Brown Charles Henry Exeter 5b 79


Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
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BROWN Harriet Thirza Exeter 5b 91


Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Brown Louisa Mary Exeter 5b 85

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 12 Nov 2009 13:36

Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John BROWN Head M Male 34 Exeter, Devon, England Genl Labr
Mary A. BROWN Wife M Female 32 Exeter, Devon, England Fish Hawker
Richard J. BROWN Son Male 14 Exeter, Devon, England Labourer In Paper Mill
William BROWN Son Male 12 Exeter, Devon, England Scholar
John G. BROWN Son Male 10 Exeter, Devon, England Scholar
Charles H. BROWN Son Male 8 Exeter, Devon, England Scholar
Joseph C. BROWN Son Male 3 Exeter, Devon, England Scholar
Harriett T. BROWN Daur Female 8 m Exeter, Devon, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 37 Coombe St
Census Place Exeter St Mary Major, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341518
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2151 / 153
Page Number 28


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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Nov 2009 13:39

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
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BROWN Alice Bessie L Exeter 5b 82


Possible for Joseph but no middle name??

Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
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BROWN Joseph Exeter 5b 95


Dea

Dea Report 12 Nov 2009 13:39

Looks like the only 'possible' for the marriage:

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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>>>Brown John Exeter 5b 163
Farley John Exeter 5b 163
Helmore Elizabeth St Thomas 5b 163
>>>Hunns Mary Ann Exeter 5b 163
Snow Isabella Exeter 5b 163

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 12 Nov 2009 13:43

Births Jun 1848
Hunns Mary Ann Exeter 10 109

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 12 Nov 2009 13:46

1851:

Mary A. Hunns
Address: Stepcote Hill
Enumeration District: Exeter St John
County: Devonshire
Birth Place: Exeter, Devonshire, England
Age: 3
Gender: Female
Relationship: Daughter


Johannah Hunns Exeter St John, Devonshire Exeter, Devonshire, England Female 13

Johannah Hunns Exeter St John, Devonshire Scilly Islan, Cornwall, England Female 35

Mary A. Hunns Exeter St John, Devonshire Exeter, Devonshire, England Female 3

Edward Hunns Exeter St John, Devonshire Exeter, Devonshire, England Male 6

George Hunns Exeter St John, Devonshire Exeter, Devonshire, England Male 7 Months

Richard Hunns Exeter St John, Devonshire London, Mid Male 47

Richard Hunns Exeter St John, Devonshire Exeter, Devonshire, England Male 8

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 12 Nov 2009 13:52

1861 England Census
about Richard Hanns (HUNNS)
Name: Richard Hanns
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Joanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, London, England

Civil parish: Exeter St Mary Major
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: West Street

Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St Sidwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Hanns 57 Netting dealer
Joanna Hanns 45 Fish Dealer
Marian Hanns 12
George Hanns 10
Charles Hanns 8


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1395; Folio: 91; Page: 15; GSU roll: 542806.

Dea x

Martyn

Martyn Report 12 Nov 2009 14:16

many thanks for everyone's help, still looking for marriage details of James Brown b1816 to Mary b1811. No maiden name for Mary I'm afraid but I do have the children's names & all were born in Exeter Devon :

Mary 1830, Selina or Selma 1835, Susan 1837, Elizabeth 1838, Joseph 1841, John 1847 & james 1849.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 12 Nov 2009 14:29



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SUSAN BROWN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 JUL 1837 Saint Mary Steps, Exeter, Devon, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES BROWN Family
Mother: MARY ANN


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C051011 1558 - 1837 0917105 Film 0933256 Film


Sheet: 00



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Dea

Dea Report 12 Nov 2009 16:16

Martyn,

What do you think to the John Brown marriage to Mary A Hunns in 1865 ?

It looks very possible to me?

Dea x