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I am trying to find the John and Martha Brown born c1798 Norfolk.

Here they are on 1851 census:

John Brown
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Bergh Apton, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Bergh Apton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Loddon
Sub-registration district: Aldeby
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
John Brown 54
Martha Brown 53
John Brown 28
Samuel Brown 17
Mary Brown 13
Rebecca Brown 11
George Brown 9


BUT I cannot find them in 1841 or the other census.......please help

Were all the children born in Norfolk?

IF - and only if - this is Martha, she, at least should be on 1861

Name: Martha Brown
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 68
District: Loddon
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 167

1861

Name: George Brown
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Marthar
Gender: Male
Where born: Bergh Apton, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Bergh Apton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Loddon
Sub-registration district: Loddon
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 64
Marthar Brown 63
John Brown 38
George Brown 19
Isaack Brown 31 Nephew

Rebecca in 1861

Name: Rebecca Brower
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bergh Apton, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Thorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Blofield
Sub-registration district: Blofield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
William Jecks 37
Maria Jecks 34
Mary Jecks 13
Gertrude Jecks 12
Fanny Jecks 8
William K Jecks 7
Charles B Jecks 5
Maria Jecks 1
Frances Wiells 34
Mary Anne Desboro 21
Rebecca Brower 21
Sarah Anne Trory 22

1861

Name: George Brown
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Marthar
Gender: Male
Where born: Bergh Apton, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Bergh Apton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Loddon
Sub-registration district: Loddon
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 64
Marthar Brown 63
John Brown 38
George Brown 19
Isaack Brown 31

1871 for son George?

Name: George Brown
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A P
Gender: Male
Where born: Bergh Apton, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
George Brown 30
Mary A P Brown 26
George F Brown 1

any luck for john and martha in 1841, thank you

anyone managed to find John and martha in 1841 ?

If they had, it would have been posted on here