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Trying to trace Florence South Brown

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Lynne

Lynne Report 2 Feb 2010 20:55

Born in Grantham 1890, Married Edward Berridge 1909, widowed in 1936 and re-married 1936 Robert Rouse.

val1963

val1963 Report 2 Feb 2010 21:00

Lynne

could this be her?

Name: Florence Rouse
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1890
Death Registration Month/Year: 1972
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 246



Name: Florence South Brown
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Grantham (1837-1933)
County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 461 (click to see others on page)



Val

val1963

val1963 Report 2 Feb 2010 21:10

1911 census

HOUSEHOLD BERRIDGE FLORENCE F 1890 21 Grantham Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD BERRIDGE EDWARD M 1883 28 Grantham Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD BERRIDGE EDWARD M 1910 1 Grantham Lincolnshire




Name: Doris Berridge
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Brown
District: Grantham (1837-1933)
County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 869 (click to see others on page)


Val

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 3 Feb 2010 02:32

Their marriage certificate should give you her fathers name

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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BERRIDGE Edward Grantham 7a 986
BROWN Florence Grantham 7a 986


You can buy certificates at ... www.gro.gov.uk

They cost £7 and when asked if you have the GRO number tick YES

The GRO numbers are just the Volume (7a) & page (986) numbes which I have given you here

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Feb 2010 09:46

I can't see a birth registration for this child;

1891 England Census
about Flora South
Name: Flora South
Age: 8/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Grantham
Ecclesiastical parish: Grantham
Town: Barrowby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham North
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James South 27
Jane South 30
Constance South 13
Fred South 5
Flora South 8/12


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Feb 2010 09:53

You really need Florences marriage or birth certificate.... I have a sneaky feeeling that this family may have more to it than meets the eye. I looked for the family in 1881, couldn't see them, so I looked for James, who's occupation is a Painter and I came across this;

1881 England Census
about James Dawson
Name: James Dawson
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Deborah
Gender: Male
Where born: Grantham, Lincoln, England

Civil parish: Grantham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address: 14 Stanton Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Painter

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Deborah Dawson 55
Jane Dawson 24
James Dawson 17
Mary Dawson 15
George Dawson 12
James South 60 <<<<<<<<<<< Lodger
William Chapman 26


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Feb 2010 10:02

Then loooking for Constance and her mother Jane I came across this;

1881 England Census
about Constance Brown
Name: Constance Brown
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick
Mother's Name: Sarah Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Grantham, Lincoln, England

Civil parish: Spittlegate
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Wilcoxs Yard
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Brown 23
Sarah Jane Brown 24
Constance Brown 3
Edward Brown 1
Edward Weaver 24


Sarah Jane is a little older on here. Looking for Constance in 1901 she seems to have married before then;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>Brown Constance Grantham 7a 1081
Cox Frances Mary Grantham 7a 1081
Henson Charles Grantham 7a 1081
>>>>>>>>>>.Walker John Thomas Grantham 7a 1081



1901 England Census
about Constance Walker
Name: Constance Walker
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John T
Gender: Female
Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Grantham
Ecclesiastical parish: Grantham St Wulfram
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham North
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
John T Walker 31
Constance Walker 23

So I really think you need some certificates to see if this is your lady.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Feb 2010 10:10

This is the same Dawson family in 1871 using the surname of South, note that James South from the 1881 census is stated as head of the household, his occupation is also the same as the 1881 census, Saddler;


1871 England Census
about Arthur J South
Name: Arthur J South
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Deborah
Gender: Male
Where born: Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Spittlegate
Ecclesiastical parish: Spittlegate
Town: Grantham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
James South 50
Deborah South 46
Arthur J South 7
Mary E South 4
George W South 3




And this looks like James Souths birth;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1863 (>99%)
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DAWSON Arthur James Grantham 7a 419





Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Feb 2010 10:16

This is Deborah in 1861, she is stated as married;

1861 England Census
about Deborah Dawson
Name: Deborah Dawson
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Swayfield, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Grantham
Town: Grantham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Deborah Dawson 34
Jane Dawson 4
Henry Clibbon 23 Lodger
Louisa Clibbon 23 Lodger


And here's James;

1861 England Census
about James South
Name: James South
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Grantham
Town: Grantham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Daniel 58
Mary Daniel 59
James South 40
Robert Gibbon 18
Charles Cutts 23
Ann Cutts 21
John Bradshaw 23


He is stated as Unmarried..... so it's looking like the couple couldn't marry due to Deborah already being married.... this leads to the changing of the surnames from Dawson to South



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Feb 2010 10:22

Deborahs first child Jane was born in Sleaford, looking for Deborah in 1851 I note there is a Deborah Chapman from Swayfield working in the Sleaford reg district, so this looks like her marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1855 (>99%)
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CHAPMAN Deborah Bourne 7a 513
DAWSON Henry Bourn 7a 513




Dee x

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Aug 2010 22:42

Lynne can you delete your other thread please, now I've nudged this one up for you

jax

jax Report 5 Aug 2010 22:50

Have pm'd her Michael as she had'nt returned to this one since Feb

jax

Flick

Flick Report 5 Aug 2010 22:55

1901.......in case Lynne deletes the other thread - as asked to do by Michael* .......before seeing the info

Name: Florrie South
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Grantham
Ecclesiastical parish: Grantham St Wulfram
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England



Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham North
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
James South 37
Jane South 47
Florrie South 10
Ethel South 5

jax

jax Report 5 Aug 2010 23:04

Pm opened recieved "request to view my tree"

oh well can only try another one sent

jax