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James
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26 Aug 2010 21:13 |
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hi.i am looking for a marrage of mary browns first marrage to i think someone called billinton. i say i think because there is a sarah billinton in the 1861 census as daughter.aged 14 with james and mary johnson. mary was born 1829. this is where it gets tricky she then marrys someone named johnson.then marrys my g.g.grandad james johnson . 1856 i have there marrage cert as mary johnson. widow her father john brown.i would like to thank you in advance.
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AnnCardiff
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26 Aug 2010 21:20 |
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where did all this happen?
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GlitterBaby
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26 Aug 2010 21:21 |
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1861 for info Name: Sarah Billinton Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: W Common, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Worsbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 164 Household Members: Name Age James Johnson 33 Mary Johnson 33 Sarah Billinton 14 Eliza Johnson 7 William Johnson 4 Elizabeth Johnson 1
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Catherine
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26 Aug 2010 21:23 |
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for ref:- 1861
Name: Sarah Billinton Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: W Common, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Worsbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 164 Household Members: Name Age James Johnson 33 born: W Common, Yorkshire Mary Johnson 33 born: W Common, Yorkshire Sarah Billinton 14 Eliza Johnson 7 William Johnson 4 Elizabeth Johnson 1
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GlitterBaby
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26 Aug 2010 21:24 |
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1851 ??
Name: Sarah Johnson Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Worsbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 228 Household Members: Name Age Mary Johnson 23 Sarah Johnson 4 Charles Johnson 3 MO Might not be as listed as widow
But there is a Brown family on same page ?
Even stranger when you look at the address for the Brown family at top of image
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James
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26 Aug 2010 21:25 |
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hi and sorry she marrys my gg grandad james johnson in barnsley south yorkshire so may be same area thanks
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Catherine
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26 Aug 2010 21:36 |
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Glitter Baby:- James did say that Mary married twice and each time to someone called Johnson, and so could probably be widowed in 1851, so your 1851 does seem to be her!
RE 1851 census:- This family are living next door to a family with the name of Billington:-
Sarah Billington abt 1804 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Wife Worsbrough, Yorkshire Thos Billington abt 1819 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Head Worsbrough, Yorkshire Sarah Billington abt 1831 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Daughter Worsbrough, Yorkshire Thomas Billington abt 1841 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Son Worsbrough, Yorkshire
.........and this is the Brown family:- James Brown abt 1825 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Head Worsbrough, Yorkshire Mary Brown abt 1826 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Wife Worsbrough, Yorkshire John Brown abt 1844 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Son Worsbrough, Yorkshire Geo Brown abt 1848 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Son Worsbrough, Yorkshire Mary Ann Brown abt 1850 Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Daughter Worsbrough, Yorkshire
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Catherine
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26 Aug 2010 22:24 |
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Possible first marriage for Mary?
Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%) Allen Ann Bradford Yk 23 197 BARKER Hannah Bradford Yk 23 197 XXXX Brown Mary Bradford Y 23 197 DIXON Henry Bradford Y 23 197 HODGSON Jonas Bradford Yk 23 197 XXXX JOHNSON John Bradford Yk 23 197 Stansfield Sarah Bradford Y 23 197 Wilkinson Jacob Bradford Y 23 197
Mary's widowed by 1851 so these are a couple of possible deaths for first husband (If this is her husband):- Deaths Jun 1850 (>99%) Johnson John Bradford Yk 23 96
Deaths Dec 1850 (>99%) JOHNSON John Bradford Y 23 126
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James
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26 Aug 2010 22:41 |
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thanks to everyone for trying to find this for me.still very new to this and not very fast on the computer.will someone let me know if my response to info given was ok. catherine i think they may have married in barnsley the 1851 census is interesting browns. billington and johnsons once again thanks
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Catherine
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27 Aug 2010 09:41 |
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This is possibly the birth of Mary?
MARY BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 09 DEC 1827 Worsborough, Yorkshire, England Father: JOHN BROWN Mother: SARAH
and these would be possible siblings:- JAMES BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAY 1825 Worsborough, Yorkshire, England
GEORGE BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 24 APR 1833 Worsborough, Yorkshire, England
Thomas Brown - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 AUG 1838 Worsborough, Yorkshire, England
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Catherine
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27 Aug 2010 09:54 |
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This would be the family above in 1841:-
Name: Mary Brown Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Darfield Hundred: Staincross County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: W. Common Registration district: Ecclesfield Sub-registration district: Worsbrough Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Brown 37 - Miner (All born in the county) Sarah Brown 39 Henry Brown 18 James Brown 16 Mary Brown 13 Sarah Brown 9 Thomas Brown 2
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Catherine
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27 Aug 2010 10:01 |
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Following this family through the census records I came across the 1861 census which shows brother Thomas(born 1838) still living with his mother Sarah. Note Sarah's name!
1861 Name: Thomas Brown Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: W Common, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Worsbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Warsbro Common
Occupation: Collier Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 75 Household Members: Name Age XXX Sarah Billington XXX 58 - born: Coley Jane, Yorkshire (Widow) Thomas Brown 22
1871 she is still noted as Billington, so maybe John and Sarah didn't marry? Name: Thomas Brown Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Worsborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsborough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 194 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Brown 32 - Coal Miner Elizabeth Brown 26 James Brown 9 Sarah Billington 69 - born: Worsbro, Yorkshire (Widow)
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Catherine
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27 Aug 2010 10:23 |
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Then again maybe not?
Looks as though Sarah could have married Thomas Billington:-
1851 Name: Sarah Billington Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1804 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thos Gender: Female Where born: Worsbro, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Worsbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 227 Household Members: Name Age Thos Billington 32 born: Worsbro, Yorkshire Sarah Billington 47 Sarah Billington 20 born: Worsbro, Yorkshire Thomas Billington 10 John Whiteley 28
.............just realised that this is the same family as the one living next door to Mary Johnson in 1851 census. James Brown, also living next door, would seem to be the son of John and Sarah Brown and brother of Mary.
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Catherine
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27 Aug 2010 10:27 |
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Possible marriage of Sarah and Thomas:-
Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%) xxxx Billington Thomas Ecclesfield 22 127 xxxx Brown Sarah Ecclesfield 22 127 Pinder Mary Ann Ecclesfield 22 127 Slater George Ecclesfield 22 127 The district Ecclesfield is an alternative name for Ecclesfield and it is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire This was the reg.dist. for Barnsley at this time!
Two possible deaths for husband John:- Deaths Dec 1841 (>99%) BROWN John Ecclesfield 22 102 Deaths Sep 1847 (>99%) Brown John Ecclesfield 22 87
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James
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27 Aug 2010 21:38 |
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hi catherine just clicked on thank you for all the info.it will take me a while to take it in.once again thank you.
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