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George Middleton Brown was born in Auchtermuchty in Scotland around 1849, parents Robert Brown and Margaret Low. He married Christina Speed in Collessie in 1874. They moved to Durham and in 1889 Christina, children, her father and sister came to Australia. George seems to have disappeared as haven't been able to find a death certificate and on his daughters marriage certificate in 1901 says he was deceased. Does anyone know what became of him? He was my husbands g/g grandfather and I don't think he came to Australia nor is he buried with his family here in St Marys NSW. Would love to know what happened to him.
Robyn Gibson

The last I can find of him is in the 1881 Census he was living in Foster Street Hebburn Quay Durham England and his occupation was a sawyer. His children were Jane, Robert,Margaret,Christina,Andrew (died in Durham) and John (died in Australia). Christina his wife came to Australia aboard the "Cuzco" in 1889. Any idea where I can find him.
Robyn

Hi Robyn

On Ancestry

George Brown abt 1850 1882 Stockton Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding

George Brown abt 1848 1887 Lanchester (1875-1938) Durham

On Freebmd

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1882 (>99%)
BROWN George 0 Durham 10a 205 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%)
Brown George 49 Durham 10a 216 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Sep 1883 (96%)
BROWN George 61 Durham 10a 195 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Dec 1883 (97%)
BROWN George William 39 Durham 10a 206 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Sep 1885 (>99%)
BROWN George 0 Durham 10a 168 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Mar 1888 (99%)
BROWN George 67 Durham 10a 205 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Mar 1890 (>99%)
BROWN George 1 Durham 10a 234 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Sep 1890 (>99%)
Brown George 28 Durham 10a 210 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)
Brown George Cuthbert 1 Durham 1

These are the only possibilities I can find. You will need to try and narrow it down with the info available and perhaps purchase some certs.

Regards

Catherine

Catherine

Hi Catherine
Thanks for that. I have been searching for George Middleton Brown and maybe should look outside the circle so will see what I can come up with now. His youngest daughter was born in 1885 so he was still alive around that time and his wife came to Australia in 1889 so it narrows it down somewhat.
Robyn

Name: George Brown
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 45
District: South Shields (jarrow was a parish in the district of south shields)
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 465

it maybe chrstina left george in durham?

Hi
I've sent away for a death certificate for George Brown 1848-1887 Lanchester Durham as that appears to be the one most likely to be him I feel. As Christina and family left for Australia in 1889 (probably only a year or so after he died) and came out to be with her brother who she maybe expected to help her. She never married again and he was on her death cerificate but it only states he was her husband not whether he was alive or dead. The only reference to him being dead was on their daughter's marriage certificate in 1901. Thank you for your help, just hope I've picked the correct one.
Robyn

I received the death certificate for George Brown from Lanchester Durham and it wasn't the correct George Middleton Brown unfortunately so disappointed.
I'm back to square one again so does anyone have any ideas where else I can look. The others as listed above do not appear to fit in the time line I have for him. I'm starting to think that maybe she left him and brought her children to Australia but would love to be certain. His daughter says he is deceased in 1901 on her marriage certificate and they came out in 1889. The last child was born in 1885 so there is a window that appears to be missing.
Any help appreciated.
Robyn

I've not looked at emigration to Oz, but seen plenty to Canada.
It's quite common for someone (usually hubby, but maybe a bro) to come over first, check the place out and get settled, then send for the rest of the family.
I'm wondering if George came over first, and there's maybe a death for him over there - maybe even before Chirsty and the kids came over.

Unlike Scottish and many Oz d.certs, English d.certs contain little genealogical info, as you'll have seen from the wrong George you got.
Although George & Chirsty's parents wed pre 1855, they were all alive in 1861, so it's worth getting their d.certs.


1861 Scotland Census
Registration Number: 416
Registration district: Collessie
Civil Parish: Collessie
County: Fife
Address: Kilwhiss Farm
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 33
Page: 5
Roll: CSSCT1861_54

Andrew Speed 35 Collessie, Fife Head Ploughman
Jane Speed 39 Arngask, Kinrosshire Wife Ploughman Wife
Christina Speed 11 Collessie, Fife Daughter Scholar
Jane Speed 8 Collessie, Fife Daughter Scholar
George Speed 4 Arngask, Fife Son
Robenia Speed 1 Collessie, Fife Daughter


1861 Scotland Census
Registration Number: 450
Registration district: Newburgh
Civil Parish: Newburgh
County: Fife
Address: Foot Of Gardens
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 10
Page: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_60

Robert Brown 42 Kings Kettle, Fifeshire Head Sawyer
Margaret Brown 48 Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire Wife
James Brown 25 Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire Son Sawyer
Margaret Brown 17 Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire Daughter Linen Weaver
Elizabeth Brown 15 Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire Daughter Linen Weaver
George Brown 11 Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire Son Scholar
David Brown 9 Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire Son Scholar


You can get an 1890s map showing parishes in Fife (indeed, any Scottish county) at:
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/gazetteer/
The parish of Arngask used to straddle 3 counties (PER, KRS, FIF), but the county boundaries were changed in the 1890s and now it's in Perth.

Hi mgny
Thank you for that, I do have Andrew Speed's death certificate as he was the only one who came to Australia. Will get the other death certificates especially for the Browns after Christmas but am sure George was still alive when his father died in 1874 as his last child was born in June 1885.
George Middleton Brown didn't come here as far as I can be sure, there is no death certificate for him and he's not buried with the rest of the family and they are all together at St Marys NSW cemetery. Christina's brother was already here and her father, sister Jane came out with her and the children. Robenia died along with their mother in Scotland before they came out.
I just hate not knowing what became of him as he's the only one I can't sort out and Brown such a common name.
Robyn.

Robyn, maybe you know already, but anyways:

For Scottish stuff, you'll need to buy credits at SP.
The main SP site is http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Examples of d.regos at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/Content/Help/index.aspx?r=554&404
(links to other examples in right margin)

There's English examples near end at:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_186584.pdf

For SP stuff over 100y old, the cost is abt 1 GBP per image. They also have the census images.

Searching at SP can get expensive, so try alternative searches first, then use SP when you're ready to spend your quid.

Ancestry has transcriptions of 1841-1901, but lack marital & disability status.
FreeCEN has some transcriptions of 1841-1871 at:
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
FreeCEN's coverage varies very much by county - older is more complete.

For OPRs, check the IGI.


More URLs:

For UK pics - like Arngask kirk, try:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO1310

Go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ and search for 326900,710100 then zoom out a step and then get a larger size map If I've got it right, you should be at Bowhouse Farm, midway between Wester Kilwhiss and Easter Kilwhiss, each 1km away. (The blue grid lines are 1km apart). I can't see Kilwhiss Farm now, but it must be around here that it was.

I have found a George Middleton Brown marrying a Mary Elizabeth Jones in 1903 in the Jul-Aug-Sep quarter in the Cleobury Mortimer District in the county Herefordshire,Shropshire,Worcestershire and was wondering if anyone can help me find when and if they had children or when they died.
I would dearly love to find what happened to George Middleton Brown as I've contacted another family member and he tells me that the story in their family was that he died at sea and was buried at sea. George's family came out to Australia on the "Cuzco" in 1889 and he wasn't listed as a passenger so how can I find out if he left England on board the ship. Can anyone help me?
Robyn

I think this is another guy.

Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
BROWN George Middleton Knighton 11b 167


1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Middleton BROWN Head M Male 45 Beguildy, Radnorshire, Wales Ag Lab
Margaret BROWN Wife M Female 43 Beguildy, Radnorshire, Wales
Jane BROWN Daur Female 12 Beguildy, Radnorshire, Wales Scholar
Susan BROWN Daur Female 10 Beguildy, Radnorshire, Wales Scholar
Catherine BROWN Daur Female 8 Beguildy, Radnorshire, Wales Scholar
George Middleton BROWN Son Male 5 Beguildy, Radnorshire, Wales Scholar
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Source Information:
Dwelling Cottage
Census Place Stowe, Shropshire, England
Family History Library Film 1342316
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5473 / 58
Page Number 5
Registration district: Knighton
Sub-registration district: Knighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Looks like his dad died:

Deaths Mar 1895 (>99%)
Brown Middleton 64 Cleobury M 6a 498