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19 Dec 2010 22:17 |
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I've just received a marriage cert for Alexander BROWN who married in Nov 1913. His residence at time of marriage was 131 Boaler Street West Derby, his occupation was Corporation Labourer and his father was Robert Brown (deceased).
As there are quite a few Alexander Brown's in the area born about the same time I can't order his Birth Cert (he might not have been born in the area either).
I'm hoping someone who has access to the 1911 census would be kind enough to look up the address above (hopefully he was living there then) and let me know who his mother was and perhaps where he was born...
Cheers :)
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Flick
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19 Dec 2010 22:25 |
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This one is a Labourer, and has a brother Robert
Person: BROWN, Alexander Address: 57 Warburton St Liverpool Cost: You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. BROWN, Robert Head Single M 32 1879 Cabinet Makers Packer Lancashire Lpool VIEW BROWN, William Brother Single M 29 1882 Ships Cook Assistant Lancashire Lpool VIEW BROWN, John Brother Single M 26 1885 Labourer Lancashire Lpool VIEW BROWN, Alexander Brother Single M 18 1893 Labourer Lancashire Lpool VIEW BROWN, Harry Brother Single M 14 1897 Bakers Errand Boy Lancashire Lpool VIEW MARGAN, Thomas Stepbrother M 11 1900 School Lancashire Lpool VIEW BROWN, Ellen Sister Single M 24 1887 Domestic Servant Lancashire Lpool VIEW BROWN, Florence Sister Single F 20 1891 Domestic Servant Lancashire Lpool VIEW TAYLOR, William Boarder Single M 15 1896 Grocers Errand Boy Lancashire Lpool VIEW TAYLOR, George Boarder M 13 1898 School Lancashire Lpool VIEW TAYLOR, Charles Boarder M 12 1899 School Lancashire Lpool
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19 Dec 2010 22:43 |
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1911
131 Boaler St is occupied by Murphy family
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19 Dec 2010 22:47 |
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Does the marriage cert give his age? Who were the witnesses? Katie
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19 Dec 2010 22:47 |
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Thanks for trying Flick :)
Doesn't look like I'll be getting far if he wasn't living at 131 Boaler St West Derby at the time of the census.
Wishing you all the best for Christmas and the New Year
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19 Dec 2010 22:52 |
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To Glitter Baby, thank you... not good news but thank you at least I now know
To Katie, his age is listed as 20, the witnesses are, George T Kirkham (I think) & J N Thirsfall???
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19 Dec 2010 23:37 |
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If I pay to view BROWN, Alexander Brother Single M 18 1893 Labourer Lancashire Lpool VIEW will there be more information to see apart from what has been posted by Flick? Oh dear, I'm grabbing at straws now :)
I'm trying to locate the family above on the 1901 census but haven't had any luck so far, I'll keep plodding on in between my Christmas baking.
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Choccy
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20 Dec 2010 08:12 |
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On the 1911 census the enumerator states that Alexander was working for Liverpool Corporation
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20 Dec 2010 08:23 |
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1901 - ?? Thomas is a step-brother in 1911
MANGAN, Thomas Head Married M 40 1861 Butchers Labourer Dublin Ireland VIEW MANGAN, Ellen Wife Married F 37 1864 Ripton Yorkshire VIEW (born SKIPTON on original) MANGAN, Ellen Daughter F 14 1887 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW MANGAN, Florence Daughter F 11 1890 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW >>>>>MANGAN, Alexander Son M 8 1893 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW MANGAN, Henry Son M 4 1897 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW MANGAN, Thomas Son M 1 1900 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 3493 Folio: 6 Page: 4 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: West Derby Western Enumeration District: 43 Ecclesiastical Parish: Edge Hill St Jude Civil Parish: West Derby Municipal Borough: Address: 7/ 4, Court House, Lowwood Street, West Derby County: Lancashire
1911 - states she has been married 32 years, 11 children born and 8 are still living
MANGAN, Ellen Patient Married 32 years F 49 1862 Yorks Skipton VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22210 Reference: RG14PN22210 RD453 SD3 ED37 SN9999 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: Abercromby Enumeration District: 37 Parish: Liverpool Address: Institution: The Royal Infirmary General Hospital The Royal Infirmary Nurses Home, ROYAL INFIRMARY, GENERAL HOSPITAL AND NURSES HOME, PEMBROKE PLACE AND ASHTON STREET Pembroke Place and Ashton Street County: Lancashire
possible death of Ellen -
Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mangan Ellen 50 W.Derby 8b 906
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20 Dec 2010 08:30 |
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this looks like the family in 1891 -
Robert and Ellen Brown and the same children as in 1911 -
1891
BROWN, Robert Head Married M 36 1855 General Labourer Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BROWN, Ellen Wife Married F 29 1862 Knowle Yorkshire VIEW BROWN, Robert Son Single M 12 1879 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BROWN, William Son Single M 9 1882 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BROWN, John Son Single M 7 1884 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BROWN, Ellen Daughter Single F 4 1887 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 2956 Folio: 30 Page: 3 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: North Everton Enumeration District: 26 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Saviours Civil Parish: Everton Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: 41, Handfield Street, Everton, Liverpool County: Lancashire
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Katie
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20 Dec 2010 18:57 |
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Well done Choccy!
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Katie
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20 Dec 2010 19:11 |
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Possible death for Robert
Deaths Sep 1892 Brown Robert 38 Liverpool 8b 12
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21 Dec 2010 22:49 |
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Choccy that's fantastic, thank you so much *big big smile*
I was really starting to despair.
Not sure about 1901 though, I'll have a re-read and try to get my head around it.
Katie you're a gem too
Christmas blessings to you both, you've made me a very happy girl!
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21 Dec 2010 23:22 |
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Just thinking out loud now
1878 BROWN Robert m WILSON Ellen, Liverpool, St. Peter 2122LP/68/266 1879 BROWN Robert m HYDE Ellen, Manchester, Hulme, St. Stephen Manchester 72/1/277
This is the closest I could get to a Thomas MANGAN marrying an Ellen which doesn't seem to fit, maybe they didn't actually marry... 1894 MONAGHAN Thomas m CONWAY Ellen, Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne 2053LP/81/416
hmmm more thinking required while I get ready for my Christmas visitors
Cheers to all
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