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In researching my husbands tree I came across an 1881 census record which showed James Burke born 1878 in Gateshead.
He was living with his grandparents James and Bridget Burke (born Cox) who are shown as being 53, together with their children Mary (24), Annie (22), Ellen (20), and James Owen (15).
I have identified about 4 possible birth records for him
james burke 1877 Q1 Newcastle 10b/117, james burke 1877 Q3 Tynemouth 10b/200, james burke 1877 Q4 Durham 10a/420, james burke 1879 Q2 Tynemouth 10b/208 but I would rather not pay £28 for the privledge of finding that none of these are related to anyone in my tree.

I have not managed to find anyone with a James Burke born 1878 in Gateshead on their GR tree.

Can anyone please help me - or am I going to have to ask for more housekeeping so I can get these certificates :-)
Thanks for your help
Fiona

1891 is not helpful

Name: James Burke
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: North Shields
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: Wellesley


Appears to be a training ship

possible birth:-

Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
Burke James Edmund Durham 10a 420

the cert. would give you the names of his parents!

hi what info are you after could this be him
1901 census

Address Deptford Rd
Civil Parish Gateshead
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St James
Parliamentary Borough or Division Gateshead
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Gateshead
Administrative County Durham
Householder 1
Name James Burke
Relation to Head of Family Brother In Law
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 23
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Carter Cement
Employment Status
Where Born Durham Gateshead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Ellen Wilkie
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 39
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Durham Gateshead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Joan Wilkie
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Durham Gateshead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name John Wilkie
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 5
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Durham Gateshead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Robert Wilkie
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Labourer Gas
Employment Status
Where Born Durham Gateshead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Robert Wilkie
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Durham Gateshead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Thomas Wilkie
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 6
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Durham Gateshead
Language
Infirmity
could ellen have been his sister

Sorry - I posted before I had finished so i added more info to the original - I know its naughty but didn't expect you guys and gals to be so on the ball.

Glitter baby - taks for this - I did wonder where he had disappeared to. Will see if I can find anything out about the good ship Wellesley

Catherine - that is one of the 4 possibles that I had identified. Will see if anyone else happens to come up with any other ideas before applying for the Durham cert as a first attempt.

In fact i am down in Durham area in a couple of weeks so might pop in and see them and see whay I can get from the kind people in the registry office
Thanks for the help so far
Fiona

Looks like Polly is right!
So -Ellen and James are siblings:

Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
Burke Ellen Newcastle T. 10b 228
Watson James Henry Newcastle T. 10b 228
Welch Mary Newcastle T. 10b 228
Wilkie Robert Newcastle T. 10b 228

Jan

Aha!
What about:

1871 England Census
about Ellen Burke
Name: Ellen Burke
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England
Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Durham

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
James Burke 42
Bridget Burke 45
Ellen Burke 6
James Burke 4

Ellen is my husbands g Grandmother.
She has a brother James Owen who was born in 1865 - so that is not the one in the 1901 census.
The man in the 1901 census could be the James born in 1878 but although it says he is a brother in law I am not convinced that this is a true relationship as I have a feeling he is actually either Ellen's illegitimate son or the illegitimate nephew by one of her siblings who was brought up by Ellen's parents as a son.

Looks like I am going to have to get the Durham birth cert to try to find out who this guy is

OK I bit the bullet and spent £7 on the birth cert for James in Durham.
I now know that this James had a father called William who was the Police Officer at Shincliffe Colliery and a mother called Mary Horsley.

None of the above fits with anything I know about the Burke family so I am still looking. :-(

Might have to get some more certs after next payday to see what i can find out

I know son-in-law used to be used for the relation we now call stepson, as well as being used for daur's husband (sim daur-in-law). I've not seen bro-in-law used in a comparable way, but I suppose it must have been.